On 12/30/2014 5:05 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
How many WISPs have heard of MEF or CE or even VPLS?

So...  have you asked for it yet?   :-p


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I may have once asked somebody from MT about it, maybe at a show, and they gave the predicted answer, that they're a *router* company. Sort of like DEC, which was a inicomputer company.

Of course MEF has a lot of specs now. They aren't all critical, but support for the basic connection types, with QoS, is what matters. But this is foreign to the whole Linux-router market. Linux is a fossil of the early 1990s, when eye pee was still sort of the new thing, and everything else was assumed to be the enemy, or the eeevull telephone company. RouterOS is basically a lot of lipstick on top of Linux. That world still assumes that connectionless is next to godliness, that QoS is impossible, and that Ethernet is orange hose tied together with MAC-table bridges.

For those unfamiliar with it, Carrier Ethernet, which is standardized by the Metro Ethernet Forum, uses the Ethernet frame format to provide a wide range of services that aren't bridging. There's point to point Ethernet Private Line, there's PtMP Ethernet Virtual Private Line, and there's MPtMP LAN emulation. It's usually connection-oriented, using the VLAN tag as the connection ID, not the MAC. It offers CIR+EIR support ("three color"). It is protocol-agnostic to higher layers. It is manageable. And with the new SPB, it has OSPF routing between network elements, not just RSTP.

In other words, it's Ethernet Formatted Frame Relay. And that's good; it's an improvement over the original slow telco FR. It's the fastest-growing area in telecom (it's the new standard for cellular backhaul, for instance). But it's not ideologically part of the Linux/IP family, and people from that world (which includes most WISP suppliers) neither understand it nor understand why it's needed.

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