<nonWiX> Hm, I wonder where gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-200807-201303 gets their data, because I'm not sure I'm willing to believe iOS has been on a steady decline since Sept 2009 while Linux/Other (which I have to assume includes Android) has barely moved. Most suspicious. </nonWiX>
-----Original Message----- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: April 30, 2013 13:31 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bundle creation error using FIPS Ahh, this graph is awesome: http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-200807-201303 Quick glimpse at the picture here says that since 2008 to support roughly 75% of the desktop market you had to support Windows XP & Windows 7. Additionally, if you target Windows (which the WiX toolset does), somewhere between 6-8% of the market is unavailable (Mac + Linux), which bumps up the value of WinXP and Win7 a bit more. Craziness. Yeah, so we obviously want to work well on Windows XP and Windows 7 and keep an eye out on Windows 8+ (since the future always has a chance to change the numbers). I still can't believe the VC team actually dropped support for WinXP from VS2012 originally. On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Neil Sleightholm <n...@x2systems.com>wrote: > +1 for XP support (again unfortunately!) > > Still number 2 worldwide according to this: > http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-201204-201303 (equal to iOS in > UK and US). This site http://www.netmarketshare.com/ puts it higher. > > Neil > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] > Sent: 30 April 2013 17:46 > To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.' > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bundle creation error using FIPS > > +1 for continuing support for Windows XP (unfortunately!) > > >From what I understand, it's been hard enough prying Windows 98 from many > people's cold dead hands (and even then I'm sure there are hold-outs > somewhere); good luck with phasing out Windows XP in the near future. > > A better question (perhaps for another mailing list / forum) is why > doesn't Windows XP have SHA2 support by now. > > Alain > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] > Sent: April 30, 2013 12:19 > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bundle creation error using FIPS > > Creating a separate release would create even more overhead than trying to > support it now. It's hard enough to get all of our test cases covered > without creating a whole different release for it. <smile/> > > That said, I generally agree with your statement about Windows XP being on > it *support* deathbed. Unfortunately, last numbers I saw showed Windows XP > as the second most popular operating system (after Win7) in the world by a > large margin. > > If my numbers are off, please point me at a reputable source with better > numbers and we can consider killing Windows XP... I just don't see that > happening in the next 5 years (although I'd love to be wrong). > > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:19 AM, David G. van Hoose < > david.g.vanho...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > <soapbox>Windows XP is on its deathbed, and supporting it should not > > hinder mainstream users.</soapbox> > > > > Why not release an XP build separately from the main build? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rob Mensching > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 09:15 > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bundle creation error using FIPS > > > > Note: IIRC, the huge issue with SHA2 is that Windows XP doesn't have > > support for it natively. We'd have a lot of unhappy people if we > > dumped Windows XP support so this is going to be harder than it should > be. > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Jonathan Racine < > > jonathan.rac...@hybris.com > > > wrote: > > > > > Bug #3287 is now created regarding this issue. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Jonathan Racine > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Bob Arnson [mailto:b...@joyofsetup.com] > > > Sent: April-19-13 8:54 PM > > > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bundle creation error using FIPS > > > > > > n 19-Apr-13 15:13, Jonathan Racine wrote: > > > > >From what I can get out of the Domain Policies, only the SHA-2 > > > algorithms were enabled. Official reason given is for > > > PCI-Compliance. At this point would that become a feature request > > > in order to make the brun behave correctly using SHA1 or SHA2 ? > > > Please file a bug. 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