I see iOS slowly growing. I don't seen Android broken out at all. They get
their data from web sites using their counter to track visitors. It's
certainly not scientific but they have a lot of users and they're numbers
are usually in the ballpark when compared to more deep analysis. Although,
I wouldn't quote their exact numbers...


On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Alain Forget <afor...@cmu.edu> wrote:

> <nonWiX>
> Hm, I wonder where gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-200807-201303 gets
> their data, because I'm not sure I'm willing to believe iOS has been on a
> steady decline since Sept 2009 while Linux/Other (which I have to assume
> includes Android) has barely moved. Most suspicious.
> </nonWiX>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
> Sent: April 30, 2013 13:31
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bundle creation error using FIPS
>
> Ahh, this graph is awesome:
> http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-200807-201303
>
> Quick glimpse at the picture here says that since 2008 to support roughly
> 75% of the desktop market you had to support Windows XP & Windows 7.
> Additionally, if you target Windows (which the WiX toolset does), somewhere
> between 6-8% of the market is unavailable (Mac + Linux), which bumps up the
> value of WinXP and Win7 a bit more. Craziness.
>
> Yeah, so we obviously want to work well on Windows XP and Windows 7 and
> keep an eye out on Windows 8+ (since the future always has a chance to
> change the numbers). I still can't believe the VC team actually dropped
> support for WinXP from VS2012 originally.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Neil Sleightholm <n...@x2systems.com
> >wrote:
>
> > +1 for XP support (again unfortunately!)
> >
> > Still number 2 worldwide according to this:
> > http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-201204-201303 (equal to iOS in
> > UK and US). This site http://www.netmarketshare.com/ puts it higher.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu]
> > Sent: 30 April 2013 17:46
> > To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bundle creation error using FIPS
> >
> > +1 for continuing support for Windows XP (unfortunately!)
> >
> > >From what I understand, it's been hard enough prying Windows 98 from
> many
> > people's cold dead hands (and even then I'm sure there are hold-outs
> > somewhere); good luck with phasing out Windows XP in the near future.
> >
> > A better question (perhaps for another mailing list / forum) is why
> > doesn't Windows XP have SHA2 support by now.
> >
> > Alain
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
> > Sent: April 30, 2013 12:19
> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bundle creation error using FIPS
> >
> > Creating a separate release would create even more overhead than trying
> to
> > support it now. It's hard enough to get all of our test cases covered
> > without creating a whole different release for it. <smile/>
> >
> > That said, I generally agree with your statement about Windows XP being
> on
> > it *support* deathbed. Unfortunately, last numbers I saw showed Windows
> XP
> > as the second most popular operating system (after Win7) in the world by
> a
> > large margin.
> >
> > If my numbers are off, please point me at a reputable source with better
> > numbers and we can consider killing Windows XP... I just don't see that
> > happening in the next 5 years (although I'd love to be wrong).
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:19 AM, David G. van Hoose <
> > david.g.vanho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > <soapbox>Windows XP is on its deathbed, and supporting it should not
> > > hinder mainstream users.</soapbox>
> > >
> > > Why not release an XP build separately from the main build?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rob Mensching
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 09:15
> > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bundle creation error using FIPS
> > >
> > > Note: IIRC, the huge issue with SHA2 is that Windows XP doesn't have
> > > support for it natively. We'd have a lot of unhappy people if we
> > > dumped Windows XP support so this is going to be harder than it should
> > be.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Jonathan Racine <
> > > jonathan.rac...@hybris.com
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bug #3287 is now created regarding this issue.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Jonathan Racine
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Bob Arnson [mailto:b...@joyofsetup.com]
> > > > Sent: April-19-13 8:54 PM
> > > > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bundle creation error using FIPS
> > > >
> > > > n 19-Apr-13 15:13, Jonathan Racine wrote:
> > > > > >From what I can get out of the Domain Policies, only the SHA-2
> > > > algorithms were enabled. Official reason given is for
> > > > PCI-Compliance.  At this point would that become a feature request
> > > > in order to make the brun behave correctly using SHA1 or SHA2 ?
> > > > Please file a bug. Likely we'll have to add a feature to allow a
> > > different
> > > > hash algorithm, to be compatible with existing SHA1 hashes.
> > > >
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