OK. So, lets agree that (Start here quoting you:::If you're not using a
decent compressor then png's are 15% - 20% oversized.:::end quoting you
here.) we are both right. I am simply stating as such without using a
compressor (Start quoting you:::If you're not using a decent compressor then
png's are 15% - 20% oversized.:::), there for gif file-size IS smaller. In
which case I am right, especially here if you are required to use GIFs
either way, for backwards compatibility. Note, the linked site talks about
IE 5.5 and 6 --- http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/

To Andrew, one of the smartest things I have read to date. Agreed!!!

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Foskett, Mike
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> "There is an issue where a PNG will not look exactly the same in IE vrs
> FF"
>
> Never come across that, have you a reference or example?
> I have come across something similar with Safari and Photoshop images
> not blending.
> But it wasn't png related it was a gamma setting in Photoshop.
>
>
> Brett:
> PNGgauntlet is freeware: http://brh.numbera.com/software/pnggauntlet/
> As is PNGcrush: http://pmt.sourceforge.net/pngcrush/
> If you're not using a decent compressor then png's are 15% - 20%
> oversized.
>
> I'll have to agree to disagree with you on gif file-size being smaller.
>
>
> Mike Foskett
> http://websemantics.co.uk/
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [WSG] your best practise for CSS sprites for elements that
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> There is an issue where a PNG will not look exactly the same in IE vrs
> FF
>
> So if you try to match a background with the PNG you may have issues
> between the browsers
>
>
> having said that I love PNGs myself
>
> > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Foskett, Mike
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Sorry Brett, you're wrong.
> >>
> >> The png format will handle three levels of bit-depth including 8-bit
> >> which
> >> is the same as the gif format.
> >>
> >> The references you state are somewhat outdated and don't consider the
> >> different methods of compression that a png will handle natively.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I suggest you try a few comparisons out yourself.
> >>
> >> They don't always work out smaller but most often they do.
> >
> > Seconded. You can make 8 bit PNGs with as little as 8 colors or as
> > many as 256. Just try "Save for Web & Devices" in Photoshop CS3. I
> > don't even bother with GIFs anymore, the 8-bit PNGs come out smaller
> > almost every time.
> >
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