We need to always remember that if we're being brought in on a project already in progress, we're probably being brought into a messed-up project that is failing -- behind schedule, overbudget, unworkable, and in crisis. Otherwise they wouldn't need us. They've already demonstrated their manifold failures and now add to them by having fantasies about how we'll be able to fix the whole ball of mud overnight.
I love Kieren's characterization of "a back street bedroom 'I can do that' wannabee". It seems exactly right. It only lacks that they've indulged in another fantasy that they can have the website of their dreams while paying someone next to nothing. James also gets it right that often brokers want to believe that they have these miracle workers at their beck and call who can make silk purses out of sows' ears on a daily basis, earning them money for almost no work on their part, especially their having to spend time to understand what's actually going on. Heaven help the person who in any way interferes with their cashflow. On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:15 AM, <kie...@humdingerdesigns.co.uk> wrote: > Join the club, I've been commissioned to do a local website and the guy > was hoping he'd be able to get a quick bug-fix on his current with a bit of > updating. > > > > Unfortuanetly the css was akin to the Guttenberg Bible; completely > unreadable and would have been a pig to translate. Not to mention, a strange > and chaotic mishmash of tables, frames and weird proprietary software > markup. Some clients (and this one did, thank god) need to realize that when > the original is written by a back street bedroom "I can do that" wannabe, > they're paying for someone who can stick a few words and pics up and not > much else. > > > > *From:* li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] *On > Behalf Of *James Jeffery > *Sent:* 29 January 2009 14:13 > *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > *Subject:* Re: [WSG] Failed A Job :( > > > > Indeed. My only problem is I have lost future work from the guy that feeds > me these jobs because I failed it, he isn't even understanding my situation > and he's a front-end developer aswell. I mean 10 hours to do a whole lot of > bug fixing and a near rewite is stupid. Also there was no SV so when I > edited stuff, they overwrite it and it was an absolute nightmare. > > As you said. Lesson learned :p > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Krystian - Sunlust <sunl...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I remember when through GAF I got a on-page SEO job for a website, I > was stupid enough to accept it without first looking at the code, it > came out that it's a table based design with images in the markup used > for layouts etc. > > I've done as much as I could, but it was a nightmare. > > Like Simon posted, it's a good lesson. > > Regards, > > -- > Krystian - Sunlust > Affordable Web Services in Eastbourne: > http://eastbournewebdesign.net > Mobile UK (Orange): 07528 036 337 > Call for more information or email me. > > > > ******************************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > ******************************************************************* > ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *******************************************************************
