Jason, 
    Thats clearly not the case, if you read the WIA guidlines then is
advocates the use of multiple H1's, from an semantic point of view they make
sense and in terms of SEO the make sense because every site we've built uses
mutiple H1's and they enjoy page 1 results on Google.
 
The video that Tim has just sent in is by Google and they say to use
multiple H1's!

  _____  

From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Jason Grant
Sent: 16 October 2009 14:48
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG
Digest)


Tim 

To keep it really simple: 

Spec + SEO + Good IA + Semantics + Accessibility + Common sense == One H1
per page

Hope this makes sense?

Thanks,

Jason


On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Tim White <tjameswh...@gmail.com> wrote:


OK, straight from Google Webmaster Central: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIn5qJKU8VM
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIn5qJKU8VM&feature=channel>
&feature=channel
 <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIn5qJKU8VM&feature=channel> (video from
March 2009)

Tim


On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Jason Grant <ja...@flexewebs.com> wrote:


Tim, 

Well done for reading the spec - it's always a must. 

However, Google came after the HTML4.01 spec and what Google wants we give
it - so the 'only one H1 per page' guideline comes from SEO best practices
as well as general semantics and IA best practices. 

So the spec does not tell you to use one H1 per page, but the spec is not
the be all and end all of guidelines.

Thanks,

Jason


On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Tim White <tjameswh...@gmail.com> wrote:


On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:23 AM, Marilyn Langfeld <m...@langfeldesigns.com>
wrote:


...

 

H1 is reserved for the title of the page. In a document, at least, there's
only one title, while there may be many first level headings.
...

 

So H1 is, IMHO, not the first level header, but the T1, or main title of the
page. A logo is never, IMHO again, the title of the page.

 

Let's look at what the specification says; 

"A heading element briefly describes the topic of the section it introduces.
Heading information may be used by user agents, for example, to construct a
table of contents for a document automatically.
There are six levels of headings in HTML with
<http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#edef-H1> H1 as the most
important and  <http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#edef-H6> H6
as the least. Visual browsers usually render more important headings in
larger fonts than less important ones."

 <http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#h-7.5.5>
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#h-7.5.5

Nowhere does it say that H1s are for page titles or that there can be only 1
per page. In fact, the example shows two being used.

~ Tim


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