Hi Russ,
A "legal QSO" requires the exchange, and acknowledgment of your callsigns
and some identifying piece of information, noting more. An example: in VHF
contests it is callsign and grid, no signal report. The order has no
consequence. All of your examples below meet this criterion: both stations
have acknowledged that they have received the other's callsign and grid.
73 -- Larry -- W1DYJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Russ
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 9:36
To: k...@arrl.net ; 'WSJT software development'
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt
Hello Jim. Are you saying that the rules for a complete QSO can be
different for contests vs non-contest contacts? How can that be. I am sure
that every active station who works a new grid or new country in a contest,
adds that to his station totals, and expects to get a QSL card or LOTW
confirmation. To have a contest where the rules allow contacts that are not
valid for non-contest awards makes no sense at all.
73, Russ K2TXB
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Brown <k...@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 5:17 PM
To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt
Indeed they are good contacts. W0YK is a leading contester, was part of
getting FT4 and FT8 integrated with major RTTY contests.
You guys are looking at things from the perspective of non-contesters.
73, Jim K9YC
On 5/10/2021 7:34 AM, Russ wrote:
> Paul Kube wrote:
>
> 1. Answering a CQ:
> CQ WW W0YK DM97 Tx6
> W0YK K6PO R DM12 Tx3
> K6PO W0YK RR73 Tx4
> 2. Tailending a QSO. K6PO has already copied W0YK’s grid. Then:
> W1AW W0YK RR73 Tx4
> W0YK K6PO R DM12 Tx3
> K6PO W0YK RR73 Tx4
> 3. Tailending a QSO. K6PO has not yet copied W0YK’s grid. Then:
> W1AW W0YK RR73 Tx4
> W0YK K6PO DM12 Tx2
> K6PO W0YK R DM97 Tx3
> W0YK K6PO RR73
>
> These are NOT contacts!Contact rules specifically state that you must
> copy your call sign from your QSO partner before sending a
> report.Regardless of the fact that some misguided contest rules may
> allow ‘contacts’ in that form, those contacts would not be good for
> other awards (DXCC, VUCC, etc).
>
> Eliminating 73 – a bad idea.If I send 73 and the other guy receives it,
> then he knows it was a good contact.If I continue to send my report then
> he should know to continue sending RRR.Otherwise he may log a contact
> that was incomplete.
>
> 73, Russ K2TXB
>
>
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