Russ,
the only "rules" for QSO validity I have seen specify exchange of full
callsigns and confirmation of receipt of same, along with exchange of
some piece of QSO specific information and confirmation of receipt of
same. That piece of QSO specific might be a signal report but I am
pretty sure that is not the only option and certainly not obligatory.
For example there are contests that exchange call and age, others
exchange call and power, and so on. The long established QSO formats in
WSJT-X abide by these guidelines in their various forms, particularly
for weak signal working such as EME, MS, and other scatter modes where
the strictly minimum exchange may be critical for successful QSOs in the
most adverse conditions.
73
Bill
G4WJS.
On 11/05/2021 14:36, Russ wrote:
Hello Jim. Are you saying that the rules for a complete QSO can be different
for contests vs non-contest contacts? How can that be. I am sure that every
active station who works a new grid or new country in a contest, adds that to
his station totals, and expects to get a QSL card or LOTW confirmation. To
have a contest where the rules allow contacts that are not valid for
non-contest awards makes no sense at all.
73, Russ K2TXB
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Brown<k...@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 5:17 PM
To:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt
Indeed they are good contacts. W0YK is a leading contester, was part of
getting FT4 and FT8 integrated with major RTTY contests.
You guys are looking at things from the perspective of non-contesters.
73, Jim K9YC
On 5/10/2021 7:34 AM, Russ wrote:
Paul Kube wrote:
1. Answering a CQ:
CQ WW W0YK DM97 Tx6
W0YK K6PO R DM12 Tx3
K6PO W0YK RR73 Tx4
2. Tailending a QSO. K6PO has already copied W0YK’s grid. Then:
W1AW W0YK RR73 Tx4
W0YK K6PO R DM12 Tx3
K6PO W0YK RR73 Tx4
3. Tailending a QSO. K6PO has not yet copied W0YK’s grid. Then:
W1AW W0YK RR73 Tx4
W0YK K6PO DM12 Tx2
K6PO W0YK R DM97 Tx3
W0YK K6PO RR73
These are NOT contacts!Contact rules specifically state that you must
copy your call sign from your QSO partner before sending a
report.Regardless of the fact that some misguided contest rules may
allow ‘contacts’ in that form, those contacts would not be good for
other awards (DXCC, VUCC, etc).
Eliminating 73 – a bad idea.If I send 73 and the other guy receives it,
then he knows it was a good contact.If I continue to send my report then
he should know to continue sending RRR.Otherwise he may log a contact
that was incomplete.
73, Russ K2TXB
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