If I were to attend a wokshop in Austin, I would not attend the Selenium Conference in London. Selfishly I would prefer Austin: nicer city IMO, plus a 16 hour flight instead of 25 hours to London for me.
Cheers, Alister Scott Brisbane, Australia Watir Web Master: http://watir.com Blog: http://watirmelon.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott "There are two ways to get enough: One is to continue to accumulate more and more. The other is to desire less." *~ G. K. Chesterton* On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Tim Koopmans <[email protected]> wrote: > I enjoyed both, I personally like the M:N ratio of watir:selenium groups. > > I think with watir we have the luxury of being smaller (as a group). I > therefore think a format where we can pair up or run small workshops that > give us better skills in watir (or at least aligns our thinking) is most > beneficial. I also enjoyed looking over Jari's shoulder and learning more > about the development side of watir, that's where > watir-webdriver-performance was birthed. So maybe two tracks, one around > test automation/applied watir skills, another around > developing/bug-fixing/contributing to watir itself. > > For selenium, a much bigger group, I think the stand-and-present format is > more appropriate. Workshops just don't work with 200 people. > That way I get exposed to lots of different people's thinking and their > approach to solving a variety of test automation problems. I can put the > 'now how would I do this in watir' filter on anyway. > > Logistics, I think it makes sense to colocate the 2, as more than one > overseas trip is a struggle. I'm also happy to help sponsor the watir > component again. > > Regards, > > -- > Tim > > On Saturday, 22 October 2011 at 9:58 PM, Alister Scott wrote: > > I enjoyed Watir Day immensely this year, Selenium Conference less so. It > was something about the size/intimacy of Watir Day that made it special. > > I remember hearing lots of discussion about how Watir could be more > integrated into SeConf next year at this year's conference. It seems however > that this theme has been lost since then, as when Bret suggested a Watir > track <https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21topic/seconf/f2IddaqKpfc> on > the SeConf group it was quickly dismissed by Simon Stewart from Google: > > *"I'd rather avoid having tracks dedicated to a specific API, but we can > certainly accept watir talks into the main event." > * > > > So, it made me think, there's an inherent risk of not having anything Watir > related on the agenda considering how Selenium heavy the people deciding who > the speakers will be (Jason Huggins et al), and from recollection there were > no watir talks accepted for the main conference this year. > > The benefit of the Selenium Conference 2012 is obviously it is in London, > which is considerably closer to a lot of the key team (Zeljko, Jarmo, Jari > etc.) > > But... > > I attended AWTA is 2009, and it was fantastic. Like Watir Day, but less > Watir specific. Plus I really enjoyed visiting Austin (better climate than > London!) > > I've had some quick discussions with Bret about an AWTA like event early > next year. Bret is keen to showcase Watirmark: Convio's Watir framework. > Here's some of my ideas: > > > - Open source test automation workshop - not Watir specific - but > primarily focused on Watir/WebDriver > - Specification by Example a key theme > - ~ 100 attendees > - Fairly cheap entry > - In Austin > - In Feb-March 2012 > - Sponsors similar to Watir Day > - Interesting varied workshop with hands on demos, presentations, > challenges and competitions > > I am more than happy to help with organization: promotion, ticketing, > website, timeslots, speakers etc. > > The problem I see is if the key Watir folk (Jarmo, Jari, Zeljko) are unable > to attend due to distance/cost. > > Also, SXSW (South by SouthWest) in on March 9-18, so we'd want to avoid > that period as it would be almost impossible to get hotels etc. I imagine. > > Thoughts? > > Cheers, > Alister > > Alister Scott > Brisbane, Australia > Watir Web Master: http://watir.com > Blog: http://watirmelon.com > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott > > "There are two ways to get enough: One is to continue to accumulate more > and more. The other is to desire less." *~ G. K. Chesterton* > > > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Bret Pettichord <[email protected]>wrote: > > It was really great to see so many of you in San Francisco this year. I > think we need to meet again next year. > > We could meet with the Selenium team again, but this time in London, or we > could meet here in Austin. Or we could meet some where else. > > What do you think? > > Bret > > > -- > Bret Pettichord > Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com > > Blog, www.testingwithvision.com > Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord > > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > [email protected] > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > [email protected] > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > [email protected] > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development >
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