Not to defend windows against linux or other os but it seams thit is =
not
exclusively a 'windows' related issue.

My windows/xmail couple work fine with hotmail/msn, started with =
windows
2000 sp0/xmail 0.65 up to windows 2000 sp4/xmail 1.21 ... and always =
with
windows own dns servers ...
If this is a 'windows' problem it is in the specific windows =
installation
(conflics, bad dll's, ...).

For your present request on linux, as the error is "417 Temporary =
delivery
error", this is not a fatal delivery error, so xmail will try later. =
Let
xmail do the job until you receive a fatal NoDeliveryReport from your =
xmail
server.
'Time out' could be du to hotmail servers too busy, temporary network
bandwidth full on internet, no more disk space at hotmail, (or grey =
list ?)
....

Here it is strange that your isp can deliver to hotmail the same time =
you
can't directly.

If you let xmail doing the 'normal' retries, do you finaly receive a =
fatal
NDR (5xx code) ?

If yes the tests to run are exactly the same used in the 'windows' =
problem
with hotmail :
- Verify dns records for your xmail linux server, keep in mind that =
hotmail
used multiple tests to fight spams (don't know exacts tests but could =
be
rdns checks, spf records checks, black lists, grey lists, ...)
- Verify if your ip is 'black lists'
- Try to simulate a smtp session from the xmail linux server to hotmail =
and
see if result is the same then try from another pc to compare
- Try to run tcpdump to get traces of the smtp sessions with hotmail
..
..

Send any informations you can get on the list. More informations you =
send,
more help you get ;-)


Francis



-----Message d'origine-----
De : Joe Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoy=E9 : jeudi 7 avril 2005 07:29
=C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org
Objet : [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com


Not intending to start this thread up again, but everything I've read
on the subject says this is somehow Windows related but I'm having a
similar problem delivering to hotmail.com and msn.com, but my XMail
(1.20) server is on Linux .

I was getting this error as it cycles through the MX's.

ErrCode   =3D -5
ErrString =3D Timeout error
SMAIL SMTP-Send MX =3D "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP =3D "sougent.com" From =
=3D
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To =3D "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed !
SMTP-Error =3D "417 Temporary delivery error"
SMTP-Server =3D "mx4.hotmail.com."

I've worked around it by forwarding all mail to hotmail or MSN through
my ISP but it'd be nice to know what's going on.

Joe

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