Nah!  ASSP (anti spam smtp proxy)  is actually a great opensource 
anti-spam proxy tool that (as it tunrs out) runs under Linux, FreeBSD 
and Windows.  It loads a specified number of bytes of a given mail then 
refuses the connection based on a bayesian determination of spam, RBL, 
etc. instead of downloading the whole thing (unless you want it to).  It 
has RBL, whitelisting, greylisting, SPF, web-based interface, limited 
anti-virus (which I don't use),  and its fast and reasonably simple to 
install.  The only thing that would make it better (in my opinion) is if 
it were written in c/c++ instead of Perl.  I like it quite a bit better 
than SpamAssassin myself.

At any rate, it appears I was wrong about the smtp authentication OR 
popb4 and it is actually popb4 AND smtp authentication, which is kool.  
So now I know.  I will instruct my users to start using SMTP 
authentication because, as another use kindly pointed out recently, why not?

Thanks again for your input, Davide!

Jeff



Davide Libenzi wrote:

>On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Jeff Buehler wrote:
>
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>>Yes, the email client (in this case Thunderbird and numerous other
>>external email clients) must be doing pop before smtp since I have never
>>enabled true SMTP authentication (even though I would like to, but that
>>is another story), and none of my testing has included setting password
>>authentication for SMTP.
>>
>>The part that suprised me is that I am not set up to do real SMTP
>>authentication (only pop before), but when going through the ASSP proxy
>>running on the same system as XMail, SMTP authentication not only works
>>with at least some email clietns but is actually required for some.
>>Perhaps this is expected behavior, but I thought it was an either/or
>>sort of thing.
>>
>>So, ASSP -> Xmail with pop before SMTP works with Thunderbird (at
>>least), but in Outlook 2003 and Mac OS X Mailtool (at least) SMTP
>>authentication is required for proper authentication.  This was not the
>>case when ASSP was on a seperate IP and a seperate platform - with that
>>config, pop before SMTP worked for all these email clients.  Also this
>>was not the case when ASSP was not in the picture (so obviously it has
>>something to do with ASSP -> XMail).
>>    
>>
>
>Then remove ASSP (whatever it is)  :=)
>
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