On 8/22/25 05:16, Liam Proven wrote:
On 20/08/2025 4:55 pm, James Freer wrote:You are on a mailing list. Please bottom-post. It is easy in Gmail: in the Compose pane, press Ctrl+A to select all. Trim the text to what you are replying to and delete the rest. Then type below.If you are replying on your phone: don't."agents provocateurs"? I've been using Xubuntu since 2008 and don't appreciate your rudeness.Your messages to the list fail to observe basic email and mailing list netiquette. The replies to you were rude because your emails, including this one, are rude. This is an important lesson to learn in life. When you think "people are being nasty to me" then ask yourself why, and work out what you did that might have caused them to be nasty. Such as top posting.I'm was using Xubuntu 24.04.2 LTS"I'm was"?Anyway. We should not have to ask you for this. You need to provide this info up front.http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#introI found after installation i had 4 orphans [non deletable] which i posted about and received no helpful comments.What on Earth is an "orphan" meant to be in the context of a Linux distro? I've been using Linux since 1995 and Unix since 1988. I do not know this word.Then raise the issue of Firefox and Chromium crashes after the lastupdate. Versions from the repo.> Still criminally vague. What repo? Snap or Deb? What versions? What did you try? Did you run from a terminal to observe error messages? Did you reboot after installation or update before trying them?> I'm no 'agent provocateur'Your messages, including this, are provocative in multiple ways. I suggest to you that rather than complaining -- twice! -- in a single mail, you stop and think what you did to get this response.If comments like these are what Xubuntu mailing list has to offer these days i am glad i returned to MX Linux... and there the browsers are working fine.Bye then. I believe the kids say: This is not an airport. You do not have to announce departures.
Another reminder from a previous e-mail message of mine in this thread:
http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
which includes this advice:
Be precise and informative about your problem + Describe the symptoms of your problem or bug carefully and clearly. + Describe the environment in which it occurs (machine, OS, application, whatever). Provide your vendor's distribution and release level (e.g.: “Fedora Core 7”, “Slackware 9.1”, etc.). + Describe the research you did to try and understand the problem before you asked the question. + Describe the diagnostic steps you took to try and pin down the problem yourself before you asked the question. + Describe any possibly relevant recent changes in your computer or software configuration.+ If at all possible, provide a way to reproduce the problem in a controlled environment.
See also: https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html -Victor -- -- Victor Forberger [email protected] blog: http://linuxatty.wordpress.com
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