Comrade Zama, I just want to advise that you seek a meeting with Wayile at your plant and talk about this. I have confidence that he will assist you in this debate.
Amandla! Cedric Gina. On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Madlavu, Simphiwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Com > > you are inline and also you are proving what I've constantly mantained, > that a debate should not be left in the hands of the so called fundi's. > Although I'm in the E.Cape,I've had the oportunity to meet the comrade > whilst he was at COSAS, he was this vibrant. Coming back to the issue of > certificate,mine is similar to that of Malema, I'm a brilliant somebody even > if I say so myself, however you will not see that in any certificate. The > point I'm making is that, the dogs will bark at a moving car,if you wrestle > with pigs you will get dirt and the pigs will love it.Malema deserves the > respect that others claim he doesnt have,as a human being and as leader of > one of the large youth formations in the continent.People should know that > as youth our voice matter and Malema is that voice.We will be damned if we > are going to let the so called I repeat the so called interlectuals to be > the voice of our community,we dare not listen to them. the society has been > hijacked by the phobia of political debate and we dare not give in. phambili > Malema phambili!!! > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Cakwebe, Ronnie > *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2008 11:15 PM > *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Cc:* Malgas, Nicholas; Madlavu, Simphiwe; Bobani, Lindile > *Subject:* FW: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Malema's Matric Results > > > DERRICK HLUKANA NO MALEMA UZODLIWA ZIZINJA ZOMBUTHO IINTNGA ZAKHO KE PHOFU > > ------------------------------ > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *sabelo gina > *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2008 3:27 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Malema's Matric Results > > Comrade Mondli, > > I am proud of you my chief, well articulated point. > > Comradely, > > Cedric Gina. > > > On 10/24/08, Mondli Hlatshwayo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi comrades >> >> I want to state it from the very onset that I am not a Julius Malema's >> fan. I really disagree with a number of statements that have been made by >> Malema in the media. I think his approach to politics is not advancing the >> interest of the South African youth but that is debate for another day. >> >> On the other hand, I do think though that those who are socialists and >> activists should not fall into the trap of the petty bourgeois elements, the >> analysts of the bourgeois order and the mass media. During our dark of the >> struggle, formal education and qualifications were always taken with a pinch >> of salt. We knew that in general formal education was there to serve the >> interest of the apartheid capitalist system. >> >> Our approach was to go to the school and use them as a site of struggle. >> Of course, we studied and got formal qualification but individual >> qualifications and certificates were not glorified. If you read a popular >> pamphlet issues by students of 1976 called, "To town, To Ellof", you will >> notice that for them the certificate was the struggle. We had a lot of >> comrades who did not have all these formal qualifications but they performed >> better politically. In many cases, these comrades were sharper than those >> who had university qualification. The struggle was their school. >> >> In fact, their education was what we call popular education which was >> based on collective learning and sharing of experiences. These were >> grassroots intellectuals or what Gramsci would call organic intellectuals. A >> number of these comrades were shop stewards, student leaders and so on. In >> fact, these comrades were able to debate with professors and academics. >> These comrades ran their own study circles and read the Learning Nation of >> the then New Nation. The mass movement and the struggle gave these comrades >> education. . >> >> Today, we are faced with a situation where certain petty bourgeois >> elements want to judge us on the basis of our grammar, pronunciation, >> certificates and even matric results. In other words, it is only those who >> have masters degree who are entitled to public opinions. We must never >> forget that the apartheid system never provided the black working class >> children with proper education. Even today, it is the kids of the middle >> class and the ruling class who are able to excel in formal education because >> they have all the material support from their parents. >> >> Over the past few days, I witnessed a very painful and a touching incident >> in Freedom Park, the South of Johannesburg. I had gone for a meeting there. >> There was a working class kid at the meeting. He is probably three years old >> but he could not hold the pen properly. Now if you were to compare that with >> middle class and upper class kids, what do you get? The kids from better >> family backgrounds at that age are starting to read and write. They even >> speak English fluently. They are exposed to computers. Now we can see right >> from the beginning that this working class kid is unlikely to compete with >> the kids of the middle classes. >> >> I have worked with a lot of good comrades who do not have matric results. >> Do I then undermine these comrades just because they never matriculated? I >> think that would be reactionary and backward on my part. I have to confess >> that these comrades sometimes perform political tasks much better than the >> certificate-wielding petty bourgeois elements. >> >> Yours in the struggle for the total emancipation of the working class >> >> Mondli Hlatshwayo >> >> 0843773003 >> Volkswagen of South Africa (Pty) Ltd. 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