Well Said Qabane Masuku,
Anyway cde Thabo left and chose to be a celebrity by discussing our issues and belittling our President and organisation by the love letter he even shared with Shikota. The ANC is bigger than everyone and I must say, it is our duty to defend and build this organisation those who are left. And correctly so, if comrade Thabo is so much not a member of the NEC, he should have written to his branch and the letter would have followed the necessary protocol of the organisation. I think over and above it is more of a delaying tactic than ignorance from cde TM side unless he proves me wrong. The convention has proven to be a time bomb and explodes like a fire cracker every day, thou are convinced that is a reasonable explosion. Anyway we all agree that we are members of the ANC and as for us in the WC we are going to be jubilantly doing door-to-door campaigns with our President Msholozi. And the ANC is going to have the last laught. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:05 PM, goitsemang mathekga < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Funky is certainly missing the point & *must borrow from your wisdom!!!* > > Goitsemang Mathekga > > --- On *Wed, 11/5/08, LUCKY MASUKU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > From: LUCKY MASUKU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Lead us not into temptation! > To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 6:33 PM > > Cde Funky > > I honestly think you are missing the point here, while i fully agree with > you that Cde TM is one of the most outstanding cadre within our movement and > none among us can take away that fact from him. > > I think we need to be honest when dealing with this matters, we have the > responsibilty of ensuring that whatever that are advancing, it must be in > the interest of the unity of the movement. Our beloved movement has indeed > in the past years of its existence faced with complex and dynamic issue > including the one of break-away. > > I think the assessment or analysis that Cde Kaizer is raising is indeed > informed by the behaviour of our outstanding former President. > > - Cde Funky since when did we developed the culture of writing letter > to the leadership of the ANC, worst part is that the Former President is > part of the NEC and the NWC by virtue of being the a former president of > our > movement. > - I think the cde has more access than anyone in this forum to meet > with the leadership of the ANC and raiesed his dissatisfaction within the > movement. > - Cde funky for your info, the former President is on record as saying > that he is ready for any task that the movement may give him, today we must > consult him, it is indeed very interesting. > - I think that there are many cadres who were treated badly by then > President, and they have never left the movement rather they have fought > within the structures of the movement. > > I think all of us in this forum knows TM very well and those of us who are > objectively we would indeed agree that he has indeed position our country in > general but our continent in particular and no one can take that away from > him but when it come to the ANC, he had indeed failed the movement. we find > ourself in this situation because of him however some of us still hold him > in high regard. > > But his connection to the black middle class party raises a lot of concern, > for instance it is reported that the day cde Shilowa resign, he spend the > better part of the night and morning with him. I have indeed personal > expected him as the loyal member of the ANC who have spent his entire life > to the movement to call this cadres and the NEC and try to resolve this > matter but unfortunately he chooses to write the open letter to his > leadership. > > Cde let us be honest when we engage, all this analysis is informed by the > way in which some of our cadres have behave post polokwane. this cadres > failed to understand that JZ is not a life President of the ANC, at some > point he will like TM vacate that presidential office. i am looking forward > to really look at the policies this Shikota movement whether they've got the > better transformational agenda for the people of this country but i > extremely doubt, thus far the ANC is the only organisation to really advance > the that agenda for the masses of this country. > > Funky, our responsibilty now is to ensure that we achieve the 2/3 majority > and redirect the politics of the youth league as many people argue that its > intergrity has been taited which is at the partuicular extent been > exagarated. offcos by giving more support to the democratically elected > leadership. > > look at our policies, they speak volumes, > > ANC LIVES!! > > ------------------------------ > *From:* KGALE GODFREY MAILA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 4, 2008 2:52:41 PM > *Subject:* [YCLSA Discussion] Lead us not into temptation! > > > > Cde Kaizer > > I like the fact, as mentioned in your input "LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION", > that you are writing on your personal capacity [Kaizer Mohau-Writes in his > personal capacity]. Given your political seniority to many of us in the MDM > structures, one would have seriously be worried on your continous "personal > attack" to Cde Thabo Mbeki on our behalf as card carrying memebers of the > ANC. Nevertheless, it is worrying that you continue to attack him > unnecessarily. > > I have all your pieces of inputs printed in my table, which are more than > 5, since September 12 2008, that you have devoted your energy and resolved > to make Cde Thabo Mbeki your special project in a vexatious way. Even Zille > does not deserve such attacks as a human being. > > You see, Cdes, there is this tendency that if you are bold anti- Mkebi, > then translate- you are strong pro Zuma. I remember when we were still in > SASCO we used to speak about a notion of "members of other members of the > ANC,- A Personality cult". Please just be a member of the ANC and write > about something constructive, we will then always borrow from your wisdom! > > ANC Lives, ANC Leads! > > Funky Maila > > Nelspruit, Mpumalanga > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/04/08 10:35 AM >>> > > LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION * > > By: Kaizer Mohau > > Recent development in the body politic of our country seems to be of a > nature compelling all Revolutionaries and genuine democracy loving > people of our country to stand up and be counted as soldiers who will > defend our revolution to the bitter end. > > During the so-called National Convention convened by counter > revolutionaries like Terror Lekota and his cronies, statements were > made to the extend that they are prepared to do everything in their > power to defend "Democracy" and the constitution of our country. > According to these blue light revolutionaries, our democracy and the > country's constitution are under threat from the African National > Congress and its Allies. > > Some of the statements uttered during this convention were of a > declaration of war against the ANC and its leadership and that of the > Alliance collectively. It is very important for all of us to make > sober analysis and make proper conclusions in the process of seeking > to develop strategies of defending our Revolution. By Revolution in > this context I am referring to everything that forms part of the > unfolding National Democratic Revolution (NDR) including the > democratic breakthrough and the country's constitution. > > The convention will be remembered in our minds and history as a period > within which our movement was freed from Afro-rightwing infiltrators * > masquerading as the best cadres and revolutionaries of our time. > > I think to avoid any political monotony, I will desist from dealing > with these criminals individually, as the convention has demonstrated > that they are not just individuals but they are a collective of > political capitalists who in the period they occupied government > positions looted a huge chunk of our resources * which they are now > deploying to undermine the same government. > > For starters, the convention showed the South African public that > those talking of a new political party are but a bunch of bitter power > hungry Black capitalists whose fundamental objective is to reverse the > Polokwane conference outcome. The fact that the convention was > attended and addressed by the likes of Helen Zille of the Democratic > Alliance and other opposition parties clearly shows that our > Revolution is indeed under threat. Some from within us are prepared to > even forgive the historical and class enemies of our people. > > Perhaps, it is time the ANC acts decisively against those who > undermined the call by the leadership of the movement not to attend > the convention * I think Cde Vavi and the 2 million workers who are > members of COSATU are correct in calling on those who intend leaving > our ranks to do it now and not later* otherwise the movement should > act decisively in dealing with these treacherous elements. > > It is very interesting that they have been able to rally some elements > from the media something that makes this war interesting and unique. > > The media after been defeated collectively as part and parcel of the > 1996 class project's propaganda machinery * continues to assist this > class project in consolidating its counter revolutionary activities > post Polokwane conference. This was seen during the period towards the > Convention * where in which even those who were hidden behind > microphones and cameras seem to be out of the closed all of a sudden. > > The likes of Sohie "Ngonyama" Mokwena and others have in recent > period been giving major and critical airtime to the Lekota and co. > with the sole purpose of ensuring that their agenda of discrediting > the Movement and its leadership supersedes everything in this country. > > I was not surprised to read from the media that some of those > individuals who were part of the Thabo Mbeki faction and Office as the > President of the Republic were part of this convention * linked with > the letter from Thabo Mbeki to President Jacob Zuma last week, one is > compelled to conclude that Thabo Mbeki is indeed part of the > convention. > > Whether his praise singers and foot soldiers in the so- called the > Friends of Democracy website agrees or not * is immaterial to me. > > In fact let me deal for a moment with some political imbeciles who > normally abuse computer keyboards with their counter revolutionary > venom * who have made it their business to be Thabo Mbeki' > Spokespersons on the new media . > > Some of them argues that in my response to the notorious letter from > their mini God * Thabo Mbeki * lacks substance in terms of dealing > with serious issues raised in that letter. > > For their assistance which is free of charge, I did deal for instances > with the issue of "the phenomenon of personality cult" * which I > still contest that it was invented by the very Thabo Mbeki who is now > trying to play the victim in this whole thing. Like a pseudo medical > scientist * Thabo Mbeki invented a medicine after taking it himself > complains of some complications - how does he think other people felt > when he forced them to take the medication? > > Please Comrades, indeed lead us not into temptation. > > The fact that those responsible for the better part of the problems we > are currently experiencing are the ones who are today pointing fingers > at people who are only responding to their unkindness to the > Revolution and our people is very fascinating. > > It is fascinating to note that the very Terror Lekota chaired the > National Executive Committee meetings of the ANC * during the period > in which the ANC made very problematic decisions which were not aimed > at creating an enabling environment for the consolidation, advancing > and deepening of the NDR. > > And these are the decisions which led to a fully fledged phenomenon of > personality cult around the "Mini God". > > To call on the people of our country to rally against the ANC, you > must be certain that you will be able to stand your ground when the > masses realises your wickedness and betrayal of their course. > Therefore we should repeat, lead us not into temptation. > > No serious and solid army will declare a war conscious of its > inability to inflict serious damage on the other side, let alone > winning that war. > > Do not speak war as if it is catering or baking cakes * the ANC fought > and the ANC Fights, the ANC will continue to fight for the betterment > of the lives of all our people. > > We shall never, ever be intimidated or forced into succumbing to the > agenda of counter Revolution. > > > Kaizer Mohau > Writes in his personal capacity > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You are subscribed. 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