Dear comdrate Alex yes I am not hiding my identity in any case we all participate in this furom for the love of the revolution and the party, stop being idiological concubine and deal with the discusion not me I am who I say I am all the way otherwise or so.In any case since you were never informed about the difference between activists and revolutionaries, I think now is the time that you should be given a brief political lesson. It is poeple like you who do not care about the overall wellbeing of the overwhelming majority who in the South African case are the working class, who will never know that personalities are a fregment of our revolution. I choose to be a BOLSHEVIK becoz historically they are the ones who refuse to alline themselves with the Menshevik position that was in favour of the rassian petty Bourgoisie at the expence of the working class, hance the Rassian revolution took place in 1917. it is clear to me that you are not awear that communist should not alline themselfs or seek to advance the interest of the enemy class. name calling and intimidations are stratergies and tecticks of the petty Bourgoisie, so if you inspire to be a Maxist-Lenenist which you are not, you should know that I cant present myself as an individual becouse I do not have an interest of my own separate from that of the working class.Activists are found in defferent forms even those that actively took part in advancing the Impirialist agenda, have got the right to pronounce themselves as activists. but revolutionaries are those who should change the world since philosophers have already interprited it. Given time you`ll grow to learn that there is nothing like freedom of expresion in the SACP. When Caders like Mazibuko Jara were trying to provoke a discusion in the party by asking whearther "is our fleg RED or JZ" he was victimised but again it is scientifically proven that the are those who are intolarent to descending views within the party proof of that was the first suspention of Phillip Dextor who was trying to provoke discussion. So if any one was to refrain from cowardise that person should be you, come out in the open and announce your participation in the cooked alligations that lead to the suspension of the six caders. Your idioligical imatuarity made you not to have faith in constititional process of the party. The alligations about the six caders were suposed to be procidurally been raised with the PWC in Gauteng but since your intention did not have anything to do with principle and loyalty you lost faith in the PWC and the PEC after realising that your alligations had no substance, for your information we know you owe your provincial Secritaraet position to some in the CC.lastly I think you should refrain from being somebodies fandamentalist and begin to take working class seriosely.Socialisim is the Future.
--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Alex M. Mashilo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Alex M. Mashilo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Fw: The Menshevisation Of The Party To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 2:39 AM The cowards who mask themselves behind pseudonyms in an operation to discredit decisions from the SACP Central Committee among others by way of trying to turn the YCL forum as a platform of expressing feelings rather than objective engagements are not only wasting their time and energy, they are also interrupting our schedules unnecessarily so. We shall also not be threatened by an adoption of revolutionary names to advance counter-revolutionary, anti-communist agendas. As Marxists-Leninists we relate to both persons and formations not from what they say of themselves, but from clarity between that and what they really are and do in practice. We are not obsessed with appearances. We pass over from appearance to essence in every name used, situation whatsoever. The writer below sounds to be having knowledge that her/his own activities are incompatible with the Party principles. Her/His stories written bellow are evidence that s/he must appear before the SACP Disciplinary process, which he avoids by using a pseudonym masquerading as a Bolshevik, WHICH S/HE IS CLEARLY NOT. Lastly, any comrades facing charges in the Party are presumed innocent, until found otherwise after a due, credible process. I’m certain that the Central Committee Disciplinary Committee has no reason in principle to refuse any person to give evidence for or against any charges on any accused appearing before it. BUT, SUCH WITNESSES MUST BREAK FROM COWARDICE, BE THEMSELVES AND USE THEIR REAL NAMES; THEY ARE FREE TO APPEAR ANYWHERE AS THEY REALLY ARE. That is part of the freedom of expression fought for by our Party which was banned in 1950 under the Suppression of Communism Act. Truly, Mashilo, Alex Mohubetswane ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: sithembewena tsembeyi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2008/12/8 Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Fw: The Menshevisation Of The Party To: --- On Mon, 12/8/08, sithembewena tsembeyi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: sithembewena tsembeyi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: The Menshevisation Of The Party To: "Dominic Tweedie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008 , 4:56 AM The resent suspension of Zico Bolshevik Tamela and other progressive caders of the party from the Bolshevik province of Gauteng is a clear indication intolerance and stalinisim within the party, We will not be surprised to see further suspension of other Bolshevik leaders in the province or the disbanding of Gauteng PEC, as Gauteng has always been the voice of reason with in the party. Some within the CC are beholding grudges with cders, Especially those that ideologically pro founded them, Sometime last year in the ACC the then provincial Secretary of the Party Cader Vishwas Satgar was insulted and attacked in an uncommunist manner, to make matters worse those who insulted Cader Vish went to an extend of attiring racist remarks to the fallow comrade. All these uncomradely attacks took place took place in the presences of the GS, and entire CC, yet failed to protect the cader, Simply becoz it was advancing a ceirtain agenda of those who claim to be the representatives of the working class, Whilest in reality they are representing their personal interests. The partys Central Commitee members seem to have forgoten, the fact that communist caders are the most advanced and resolute section of the working class, and tha they do not have an interest of their own separate from that of the working class. Suspending Bolsheviks caders like Ziko, Tengo, and the others sugests that the is a tendency or a move by those that are financially comfortable within the party to transform the SACP into a permanent socialst desk of the ANC. These susupended Bolsheviks are possing as threat to the lumpent bourgoiesie that are curently possing as representatives of the working class, whilest they are pure capitalist at haert and agents of the impirialist agenda. Futher more these Bolsheviks are suspended for advancing a maxist leninist concept. A truely communist concept that seeks to advance working class agenda of over throwing the bourgoie suprimacy. These Bolsheviks consistancy on the state power question is a thorn in ass of the bourgoiesie and their consistancy irritates the bourgoiesie, therefore the lumpent bourgoiesie with in party who are also the drivers of pro-impirialist agenda decided to suspend these Bolshevik. The CC might succeed in destroying these classicall caders, as they are sinoir to other within the CC, but will have to note that the might of the working class has never been defeated. History will JUDGE those THUGS who are busy triying to destroy the communist party in a brutal way. If fighting for the dictatorship of the proletariat is a crime in the communist party I therefore on behalf of these BOLSHEVIKS plead guilty as charged, As caders from the bolshevic province we are tampted to believe that this susupention of Cde Zico and the others was triggered by the firm and uncompromising stand of these true representatives of the working class. PATRIA O MUERTE!! VENCEREMOS --- On Fri, 12/5/08, Dominic Tweedie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Dominic Tweedie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Gauteng on th right path To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, December 5, 2008 , 12:18 AM Dear Cde Sithembewena, Zico's cronies got me suspended from the branch last year and wanted to chuck me out of the Party. The year before that, it was Vishwas Satgar who tried to have me thrown out. I have known Zico for many years. When he was suspended from SATAWU I did not shun him. Little did I know that he would try to work the same suspension business on me. When Dinga was reinstated by NUMSA, I rejoiced, even though Dinga had been Zico's chief prosecutor against me last year. This time it's different. These guys are accused of using their positions in the Party to establish another party, just like Mluleki George and the others did in the ANC. The suspension is done by the CC. The disciplinary process will be done properly. You have to accept it, comrade, until the process is complete. My advice to you is: Do not lobby in this way for Zico and the others. Do not make allegations of ulterior motives the way you have done in this message to me. Allow the constitutional process to go through. With best wishes, Dominic. From: sithembewena tsembeyi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 December 2008 09:58 AM To: Dominic Tweedie Subject: Gauteng on th right path Dominic I know over the years we have seen Gauteng being a victim of secumstances but we as the constitiance of this movement have to say it clearly, I know that we have seen it bileteraly that it was a plan of other fuctions that after the leadership of Ziko and Nkosi, they were not wanted, this says it clearly that some within the movement donot respect the democratic process of the party in the province, Ziko and Nkosi have done all its worth to keep the party alive in the province, yet they are being dealth with, We have seen Nkosi being a true communist, one that will stand for the libaration and betterness of the poor and the working class, is this not what the party stand for. I know I might today been seen as a reactionary, but to the true esence of the matter we have no solid grounds to deal with the privincial leadership, infact we should be looking closely how to assist the province to do futher better for is people, I have not mailed you to cource conflict nor vistimisation of any of the leaders, the fact is you need to open up clearly so and see what damage you may course in dealing with these province, we have seen things unfolding and it is of true believe that non of any other province has performed to the idialogy of socialist than the Gauteng comministly so. Ziko might have been suspended due to some inconcivety that I might not know, but for the fect that the provincial chair is been ploted against I find it desterbing for the party as a whole, and we can not say that one who has on open and indipenden view of the status core of the party must be dealth with in any case we have seen the best leader and preferably Jerremy can agree too. Dominic I know you have been the greates writer of the communiist sociaty but know you need to over center the counter revolutionary that might be under way especially when it comes to dealing with Nkosiphendule the provincial Chair. Hoping you will find this in order -- MSEROBATSE --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
