Maqabane, It would be nice to have a contribution with fewer spelling mistakes, given the fact that computers have a tool to do this. This might sound like is a minor issue but it becomes very hard to read the whole contribution.
Sabelo 2008/12/11 sithembewena tsembeyi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dear comdrate Alex yes I am not hiding my identity in any case we all > participate in this furom for the love of the revolution and the party, stop > being idiological concubine and deal with the discusion not me I am who I > say I am all the way otherwise or so.In any case since you were never > informed about the difference between activists and revolutionaries, I think > now is the time that you should be given a brief political lesson. It > is poeple like you who do not care about the overall wellbeing of the > overwhelming majority who in the South African case are the working class, > who will never know that personalities are a fregment of our revolution. I > choose to be a *BOLSHEVIK *becoz historically they are the ones who refuse > to alline themselves with the *Menshevik *position that was in favour of > the rassian petty Bourgoisie at the expence of the working class, hance > the Rassian revolution took place in 1917. it is clear to me that you are > not awear that communist should not alline themselfs or seek to advance the > interest of the enemy class. name calling and intimidations are stratergies > and tecticks of the petty Bourgoisie, so if you inspire to be a > Maxist-Lenenist which you are not, you should know that I cant present > myself as an individual becouse I do not have an interest of my own separate > from that of the working class.Activists are found in defferent forms even > those that actively took part in advancing the Impirialist agenda, have got > the right to pronounce themselves as activists. but revolutionaries are > those who should change the world since philosophers have already > interprited it. Given time you`ll grow to learn that there is nothing like > freedom of expresion in the SACP. When Caders like Mazibuko Jara were trying > to provoke a discusion in the party by asking whearther "is our fleg *RED* > or *J*Z" he was victimised but again it is scientifically proven that the > are those who are intolarent to descending views within the party proof of > that was the first suspention of Phillip Dextor who was trying to provoke > discussion. So if any one was to refrain from cowardise that person should > be you, come out in the open and announce your participation in the cooked > alligations that lead to the suspension of the six caders. Your idioligical > imatuarity made you not to have faith in constititional process of the > party. The alligations about the six caders were suposed to be procidurally > been raised with the PWC in Gauteng but since your intention did not have > anything to do with principle and loyalty you lost faith in the PWC and the > PEC after realising that your alligations had no substance, for your > information we know you owe your provincial Secritaraet position to some in > the CC.lastly I think you should refrain from being somebodies > fandamentalist and begin to take working class seriosely.*Socialisim is > the Future.* > > > > > --- On *Wed, 12/10/08, Alex M. Mashilo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > From: Alex M. Mashilo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Fw: The Menshevisation Of The Party > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 2:39 AM > > > The cowards who mask themselves behind pseudonyms in an operation to > discredit decisions from the SACP Central Committee among others by way of > trying to turn the YCL forum as a platform of expressing feelings rather > than objective engagements are not only wasting their time and energy, they > are also interrupting our schedules unnecessarily so. > > > > We shall also not be threatened by an adoption of revolutionary names to > advance counter-revolutionary, anti-communist agendas. As Marxists-Leninists > we relate to both persons and formations not from what they say of > themselves, but from clarity between that and what they really are and do in > practice. We are not obsessed with appearances. We pass over from appearance > to essence in every name used, situation whatsoever. > > The writer below sounds to be having knowledge that her/his own activities > are incompatible with the Party principles. Her/His stories written bellow > are evidence that s/he must appear before the SACP Disciplinary process, > which he avoids by using a pseudonym masquerading as a Bolshevik, WHICH S/HE > IS CLEARLY NOT. > > Lastly, any comrades facing charges in the Party are presumed innocent, > until found otherwise after a due, credible process. I'm certain that the > Central Committee Disciplinary Committee has no reason in principle to > refuse any person to give evidence for or against any charges on any accused > appearing before it. BUT, SUCH WITNESSES MUST BREAK FROM COWARDICE, BE > THEMSELVES AND USE THEIR REAL NAMES; THEY ARE FREE TO APPEAR ANYWHERE AS > THEY REALLY ARE. That is part of the freedom of expression fought for by our > Party which was banned in 1950 under the Suppression of Communism Act. > > Truly, > > Mashilo, Alex Mohubetswane > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *sithembewena tsembeyi* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2008/12/8 > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Fw: The Menshevisation Of The Party > To: > > > > --- On *Mon, **12/8/08**, sithembewena tsembeyi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*wrote: > > From: sithembewena tsembeyi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: The Menshevisation Of The Party > To: "Dominic Tweedie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Monday, December 8, 2008 , 4:56 AM > > The resent suspension of Zico *Bolshevik *Tamela and other progressive > caders of the party from the Bolshevik province of Gauteng is a clear > indication intolerance and stalinisim within the party, We will not be > surprised to see further suspension of other Bolshevik leaders in the > province or the disbanding of Gauteng PEC, as Gauteng has always been the > voice of reason with in the party. > > > > Some within the CC are beholding grudges with cders, Especially those that > ideologically pro founded them, Sometime last year in the ACC the then > provincial Secretary of the Party Cader Vishwas Satgar was insulted and > attacked in an uncommunist manner, to make matters worse those who insulted > Cader Vish went to an extend of attiring racist remarks to the fallow > comrade. > > > > All these uncomradely attacks took place took place in the presences of > the GS, and entire CC, yet failed to protect the cader, Simply becoz it was > advancing a ceirtain agenda of those who claim to be the representatives of > the working class, Whilest in reality they are representing their personal > interests. > > > > The partys Central Commitee members seem to have forgoten, the fact that > communist caders are the most advanced and resolute section of the working > class, and tha they do not have an interest of their own separate from that > of the working class. Suspending Bolsheviks caders like Ziko, Tengo, and the > others sugests that the is a tendency or a move by those that are > financially comfortable within the party to transform the SACP into a > permanent socialst desk of the ANC. > > > > These susupended Bolsheviks are possing as threat to the lumpent > bourgoiesie that are curently possing as representatives of the working > class, whilest they are pure capitalist at haert and agents of the > impirialist agenda. Futher more these Bolsheviks are suspended for advancing > a maxist leninist concept. A truely communist concept that seeks to advance > working class agenda of over throwing the bourgoie suprimacy. These > Bolsheviks consistancy on the state power question is a thorn in ass of the > bourgoiesie and their consistancy irritates the bourgoiesie, therefore the > lumpent bourgoiesie with in party who are also the drivers of > pro-impirialist agenda decided to > > suspend these Bolshevik. The CC might succeed in destroying these > classicall caders, as they are sinoir to other within the CC, but will have > to note that the might of the working class has never been defeated. History > will *JUDGE *those* THUGS* who are busy triying to destroy the communist > party in a brutal way. If fighting for the dictatorship of the proletariat > is a crime in the communist party I therefore on behalf of these * > BOLSHEVIKS* plead guilty as charged, > > > > *As caders from the bolshevic province we are tampted to believe that this > susupention of Cde Zico and the others was triggered by the firm and > uncompromising stand of these true representatives of the working class. > * > > * * > > *PATRIA O MUERTE!!* > > *VENCEREMOS* > > > > --- On *Fri, **12/5/08**, Dominic Tweedie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > From: Dominic Tweedie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Gauteng on th right path > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Friday, December 5, 2008 , 12:18 AM Dear Cde Sithembewena, > > > Zico's cronies got me suspended from the branch last year and wanted to > chuck me out of the Party. > > The year before that, it was Vishwas Satgar who tried to have me thrown > out. > > I have known Zico for many years. When he was suspended from SATAWU I did > not shun him. Little did I know that he would try to work the same > suspension business on me. > > When Dinga was reinstated by NUMSA, I rejoiced, even though Dinga had been > Zico's chief prosecutor against me last year. > > This time it's different. These guys are accused of using their positions > in the Party to establish another party, just like Mluleki George and the > others did in the ANC. > > The suspension is done by the CC. The disciplinary process will be done > properly. You have to accept it, comrade, until the process is complete. > > My advice to you is: Do not lobby in this way for Zico and the others. Do > not make allegations of ulterior motives the way you have done in this > message to me. > > Allow the constitutional process to go through. > > With best wishes, > > Dominic. > > > > *From:* sithembewena tsembeyi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* 05 December 2008 09:58 AM > *To:* Dominic Tweedie > *Subject:* Gauteng on th right path > > Dominic I know over the years we have seen Gauteng being a victim of > secumstances but we as the constitiance of this movement have to say it > clearly, I know that we have seen it bileteraly that it was a plan of other > fuctions that after the leadership of Ziko and Nkosi, they were not wanted, > this says it clearly that some within the movement donot respect the > democratic process of the party in the province, Ziko and Nkosi have done > all its worth to keep the party alive in the province, yet they are being > dealth with, We have seen Nkosi being a true communist, one that will stand > for the libaration and betterness of the poor and the working class, is this > not what the party stand for. > > I know I might today been seen as a reactionary, but to the true esence > of the matter we have no solid grounds to deal with the privincial > leadership, infact we should be looking closely how to assist the province > to do futher better for is people, I have not mailed you to cource conflict > nor vistimisation of any of the leaders, the fact is you need to open up > clearly so and see what damage you may course in dealing with these > province, we have seen things unfolding and it is of true believe that non > of any other province has performed to the idialogy of socialist than the > Gauteng comministly so. > > Ziko might have been suspended due to some inconcivety that I might not > know, but for the fect that the provincial chair is been ploted against I > find it desterbing for the party as a whole, and we can not say that one who > has on open and indipenden view of the status core of the party must be > dealth with in any case we have seen the best leader and preferably Jerremy > can agree too. > > Dominic I know you have been the greates writer of the communiist sociaty > but know you need to over center the counter revolutionary that might be > under way especially when it comes to dealing with Nkosiphendule the > provincial Chair. > > Hoping you will find this in order > > > > > > > > > -- > MSEROBATSE > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You are subscribed. 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