Cde This cde who said that GS must be full time in office can they please tell us before GS was a Minister, he was always in the office from 8 - 4 and I am sure the answer is no. But he could run the organisation. But is good you speak your mind now so that Cde like Cde Wagy can clarifed you please did not bring this debate in your congress. Can also reminder them that we said in Durban "Communist to the Front" is GS not a communist. My advise to this cdes is please read corectly our resolution and think us communist you must know when material condtion allow GS to be Minister we must allow him.
Eddie ----- Original Message ----- From: Mduduzi Herman Vilakazi To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 9:06 AM Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Blade 'safe from drunk dreamers', Buti Manamela, Times Et al, Cde Domza, I understand why you debate this issue in this fashion. You have the same suspicions I have about people who want to hijack the platform to strengthen their case against the GS. I am also aware that there are opportunists who want nothing but to annihilate the spirit of unity within the party. I am equally aware that there are those who are not comfortable with a communists receiving two salaries and believe that they have a share in personal wealth of individuals. I am aware that people attack leadership to so as to insult the organisation they lead. I am aware that at all times discussions should be informed not by forces of the economy but by operational material conditions. I am made to understand that there are some political thugs who are on standby to weaken progressive political organisations. All these is but a manifestation of the cruelty of capitalism. The angle of my debate is that we should not ignore documents that we have developed to assist in the running of the organisation. I have said it before and say it now without any favor that my support for the non-change of leadership will not blind me. I am sincerely raising an issue of constitutional implications which is but part of my conviction that when things are done in a democratic organisation like SACP, the "rule book" should guide us. The "fulltime" is not in any position of responsibility but only in that of the GS. I understand that the special congress is not for elections and am comfortable with comrade Blade at the helm. However, we have developed the constitution to be the supreme law of the organisation. Even the sitting of the special congress is a constitutional matter - issues of delegates, forming of qourum, receiving of reports etc. are all in the constitution. Therefore, we are slaves of our suppreme rule book - it is not by choice on when to apply it. So in whatever decision of the party, the constitution should guide us. I hope I was never ambiguous in my construction of the sentences. Will it be difficult Cde Domza to say, yes the GS is doing a good job, both in government and in the party, why can't we amend the constitution to suit this situation? Is it difficult to accept that the constitution as it stands does not accommodate this situation? Do we as communists want a situation where debates are stiffled by the likes of MDU, DOMZA, CLARENCE etc? Surely, once we cease to debate issues, we would be left with no choice but to close this forum. As I debate this matter, I am not afraid to state that the GS should remain but this should be done in line with the suppreme law of the SACP. I do not have a blind support on this matter and we all are aware that we should do it in this way unless we become anarchist-marxists. Amandla!! On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Lebese OE <[email protected]> wrote: Cdes, Let us try to remind cde Mdu that; 1. The GS is not an employee of some company that has its office hours from 8 – 4. For your benefit the extract says: The General Secretary shall be the leading National Office Bearer of the SACP and a full-time official under conditions of service determined by the CC. The General Secretary shall be an ex officio member of all party structures (Now this does not say 8 – 4 to me and am sure to you too). 2. From time to time we will need to make decisions based on conditions at any given time. We need not read our Constitution as if we are lawyers and it is some kind of Legislation. 3. The constitution is not meant to block and delay us in achieving our strategic objectives. 4. We are a party that has a huge responsibility of pushing the agenda of the working class and doing ‘everything in achieving’ socialism in our lifetime. 5. This is the same leadership that played an important part in literally forcing the wheels on the movement back in the right track. 6. Changing leadership of the Movement was just but one of the many things that we needed to do and there is still a lot to be done so nobody is going to disturb our momentum. Our National leadership of YCL was spot on when it said through our National Secretary that the GS is going nowhere. We will defend and support our leadership and will not be apologetic for doing so. Oagile From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mduduzi H Vilakazi Sent: 09 November 2009 12:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Blade 'safe from drunk dreamers', Buti Manamela, Times Cdes, I do not know Cde Malgas what you mean but Cde Adriano raised a debate on the constitutionality part. If the extracts he made are from an original copy of the constitution of the SACP then the debate should be whether the constitution is changed or the incumbent is changed. The extract read as follows: 11. DUTIES OF THE GENERAL SECRETARY The General Secretary shall be the leading National Office Bearer of the SACP and a full-time official under conditions of service determined by the CC. The General Secretary shall be an ex officio member of all party structures and shall: 11.1 Keep (or cause to be kept) the minutes of all CC and PB meetings and such other books, records and archives as may be required. 11.2 Attend to the correspondence of the CC and PB. 11.3 Maintain regular personal and written contact with all the provinces and keep the membership informed of the work of the CC and PB. 11.4 Ensure that members of the CC are kept informed of the work of the PB in between meetings of the CC. 11.5 Draw up (or cause to be drawn up) all reports and documents as may be decided upon by the CC or PB. 11.6 The Deputy General Secretary shall, as directed by the CC, deputise for the General Secretary in respect of all the functions set out above. The importance of this constitution will be meaningless if the status qou remains because the office bearer will be part-time while the constitution warrants him to be full time. I do not think we should debate the issue with the view of seating/ un-seating a comrade. We all love Cde Blade. He took this office knowing that he should be full-time. General Secretary is an important office. Surely, SACP has many tried and tested comrades, if the constitution remains unchanged, then someone should (in line with the constitution) replace Cde Blade. So, my take is that the constitution should be amended or a new GS be elected at conference (if no constitutional amendment is envisaged). It is not about whether one is good in multi-tasking or not. It is about the constitutional obligations of the organization we so dearly love. I pause! This message and any attachments relating to official business of the Mpumalanga Provincial Government (MPG) is proprietary to the MPG and intended for the original addressee only. The message may contain information that is confidential and subject to legal privilege. 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