Success of communism will be measured by how much those we usually look down at 
advances in all areas of life.
 
> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:55:06 +0200
> Subject: Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] DEPLOYMENT FROM HEAVEN
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> 
> > Cde,
> > 1. To say that a comrade is a mere "activist" who will "never" come to
> > the desired level of "being" suggests mental retardation on the part
> > of the "proponent" who would by all means impart such retardation to
> > others so that they can be benchmarked by his/ her state of static
> > retardness...That was offensive and deserved what it got...
> > 2. I find nothing difficult with developing marxism as a system of
> > ideas, nor do I regard Marx as this super-genious...rather I regard
> > him as a person who laid foundation for the development of the
> > society...I can see flaws in his system and like any other
> > system...seeks maintainance...
> > 3. An axiological perspective on class analysis is to study the value
> > system or value judgements of that class analysis...and it doesn't
> > alter our understanding at all but it harnesses and propells it other
> > heights...the Struggle between humanisation...and dehumanisation...the
> > oppressor and the oppressor...the capitalist class and the alienated
> > working class...
> > 4.the point behind the question on "the value of commodified labour
> > (power) to be precise is raised against the incomplete nature of
> > Marxism...and the answer...though it was never included...is quite
> > easily accessible...and it doesn't take a genious...of ntsembeyi's
> > stature or a figure out...but it merely needs research...so here I'm
> > trying to break the religious myth or DOGMA THAT MARXISM IS
> > COMPLETE...
> > 5. With regard to the issue of "value of commodified labour
> > power",..I'm consulting broadly with other socialists
> > internationaly....and they find no anomaly...with anyone making a
> > contribution of developing Marxism...and my intended approach is to
> > come an exegisis...of Das Kapital Vol1...
> > Xoli..
> >
> > On 2/16/10, Brendan Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> xoli,
> >>
> >> you have missed the point of this forum.
> >>
> >> we do not shoot people or take shots at people here.
> >>
> >> we form a discourse that helps to benifit everybody.
> >>
> >> if you feel that this forum will benefit from your understanding of
> >> the "value of commodified labour" then by all mean start a topic where
> >> this can be discussed.
> >>
> >> retardation is a medical disorder, to suggest that people who struggle
> >> to grapple with issues suffer from a mental disorder is offensive and
> >> shows a complete disregard for understanding on your behalf.
> >>
> >> i often struggle to comprehend complex issues, which is why i ask
> >> comrades to engage with me on these subjects in the hope of all of us
> >> coming to a better understanding and finding clarity in difficult
> >> subjects. this is why this forum exists and are the principles to
> >> which this forum is based on.
> >>
> >> on a side note i have read your comments and seek clarity as to what
> >> is meant by an 'axiological view of class struggle.' of course i
> >> understand the words but in what manner does it alter our
> >> understanding of class struggle
> >> you could say im grappling with an understanding of this statement
> >>
> >>
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> Cde Xoli
> If it happens that we arrive to the discussion forum to show others that
> we are the better under standers by undermining the contribution of other
> people if they battle to understand your point that will be incorrect.
> Comrades there are better ways of letting an individual understand the
> points in discussions not degrading his/her inputs by suggesting that you
> are better thought out as compare to another leaders.
> I hope that Cde Xoli you bitterly understand the purpose of this forum and
> you may not want to degenerate it unnecessarily so please can you please
> leave in that standard before we can find ourselves drawn into you agenda
> we might not know what is it that it seeks to achieve.
> 
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