FROM AN AXIOLOGICAL PERSPECTIVE, IT WILL BE WHEN HUMANS ARE
COMPLETE...CMPLETION IS WHEN HUMAN BEINGS HAVE...AS WOMEN AND MEN...

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Thabang Ngcozela <[email protected]>wrote:

> Success of communism will be measured by how much those we usually look
> down at advances in all areas of life.
>
> > Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:55:06 +0200
>
> > Subject: Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] DEPLOYMENT FROM HEAVEN
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
>
> >
> > > Cde,
> > > 1. To say that a comrade is a mere "activist" who will "never" come to
> > > the desired level of "being" suggests mental retardation on the part
> > > of the "proponent" who would by all means impart such retardation to
> > > others so that they can be benchmarked by his/ her state of static
> > > retardness...That was offensive and deserved what it got...
> > > 2. I find nothing difficult with developing marxism as a system of
> > > ideas, nor do I regard Marx as this super-genious...rather I regard
> > > him as a person who laid foundation for the development of the
> > > society...I can see flaws in his system and like any other
> > > system...seeks maintainance...
> > > 3. An axiological perspective on class analysis is to study the value
> > > system or value judgements of that class analysis...and it doesn't
> > > alter our understanding at all but it harnesses and propells it other
> > > heights...the Struggle between humanisation...and dehumanisation...the
> > > oppressor and the oppressor...the capitalist class and the alienated
> > > working class...
> > > 4.the point behind the question on "the value of commodified labour
> > > (power) to be precise is raised against the incomplete nature of
> > > Marxism...and the answer...though it was never included...is quite
> > > easily accessible...and it doesn't take a genious...of ntsembeyi's
> > > stature or a figure out...but it merely needs research...so here I'm
> > > trying to break the religious myth or DOGMA THAT MARXISM IS
> > > COMPLETE...
> > > 5. With regard to the issue of "value of commodified labour
> > > power",..I'm consulting broadly with other socialists
> > > internationaly....and they find no anomaly...with anyone making a
> > > contribution of developing Marxism...and my intended approach is to
> > > come an exegisis...of Das Kapital Vol1...
> > > Xoli..
> > >
> > > On 2/16/10, Brendan Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> xoli,
> > >>
> > >> you have missed the point of this forum.
> > >>
> > >> we do not shoot people or take shots at people here.
> > >>
> > >> we form a discourse that helps to benifit everybody.
> > >>
> > >> if you feel that this forum will benefit from your understanding of
> > >> the "value of commodified labour" then by all mean start a topic where
> > >> this can be discussed.
> > >>
> > >> retardation is a medical disorder, to suggest that people who struggle
> > >> to grapple with issues suffer from a mental disorder is offensive and
> > >> shows a complete disregard for understanding on your behalf.
> > >>
> > >> i often struggle to comprehend complex issues, which is why i ask
> > >> comrades to engage with me on these subjects in the hope of all of us
> > >> coming to a better understanding and finding clarity in difficult
> > >> subjects. this is why this forum exists and are the principles to
> > >> which this forum is based on.
> > >>
> > >> on a side note i have read your comments and seek clarity as to what
> > >> is meant by an 'axiological view of class struggle.' of course i
> > >> understand the words but in what manner does it alter our
> > >> understanding of class struggle
> > >> you could say im grappling with an understanding of this statement
> > >>
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> > Cde Xoli
> > If it happens that we arrive to the discussion forum to show others that
> > we are the better under standers by undermining the contribution of other
> > people if they battle to understand your point that will be incorrect.
> > Comrades there are better ways of letting an individual understand the
> > points in discussions not degrading his/her inputs by suggesting that you
> > are better thought out as compare to another leaders.
> > I hope that Cde Xoli you bitterly understand the purpose of this forum
> and
> > you may not want to degenerate it unnecessarily so please can you please
> > leave in that standard before we can find ourselves drawn into you agenda
> > we might not know what is it that it seeks to achieve.
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