Well said vho Mutshidza



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From: Nndwamato Mutshidza <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 12:57:03 PM
Subject: RE: [YCLSA Discussion] Fwd: ANC YL Media STATEMENT OF ANCYL GAUTENG 
PROVINCE ON THE VICIOUS ATTACK OF OUR PRESIDENT JULIUS MALEMA

Equally so, the Provincial secretary has a duty to defend the ANCYL and the 
ANCby those from within who behave like chameleon. It cannot be right for both 
the Party and COSATU to become a vanguard of insulting everyone. Our has never 
been about individual and as such we seek not to worship even Blade or Vavi. 
The moment we become silent of how for example Blade responded to the January 8 
Statement presented by Preisdent Zuma on behalf of the NEC in his capacity as 
the General Secretary and go on to worship Zuma and not the ANC was problematic 
and you were fine with that. You see if we are to use the very same yard stick 
to measure who is responsible to say what we will never win? We kept quite 
because we understood the structures of the Party, we are also fine with the 
Press Release of Secretary Kupa because we understand the structures of the 
ANCYL. If you have an issue with our stance of Mbalula becoming Secretary 
General of the ANC in 2012, come
 convince us in the Provincial Conference of the ANCYL in May 2010. I can speak 
without any contradictions that my branch Mahlambandlopfu (ANCYL) has pronounce 
on this matter to guide both the Regional and Provincial Conference and we are 
in agreement with the statement by cde Kupa. Hence we are saying if you have an 
issue go to structure (especially as a member in good standing) and hoping that 
is not about the fact that you have a card and not participating, then you must 
revisit your understanding of how good you are? is it online members who in 
branches are not there. This pronouncement by Mahlambandlopfu was informed by 
reality of the epoch we are heading towards in 2012 and felt that the ANC 
belongs to all of us and no one will seat in the pseudo congress and resolve 
around how the ANC should operate. Hence it is important to revisit clause 6.4 
of the SACP constitution.

It is sad story for leaders to remain very much bias these days to protect 
their dark sides. In actual fact I am begging to see what Funky saw when the 
issue of the Black Bag Money was pondering, it might be true that the money was 
collected and people do not want to be honest. By the way why do people or cdes 
behave as if they are less ANC or more ANC than others. The fact that we choose 
to be members of the SACP does not make us better ANC members than those who 
are just only ANC members.

This new vigour and energy, which COSATU and its drunk affiliates (SADTU, 
NUMSA) got is just another way to protect their spoit broers. When Blade all of 
sudden appointed Minister and there was change of life style, buying a new 
brand car was an acceptable issue in the Party of Kotane and under the disguise 
of Security concerns. Some of this nonesense are just unjustifiable period. 

By the way our ANC constitutions is very clear on who is our members. If they 
COSATU feel that they cannot be associated with ANC, that has rich people and 
business people then they must just go.

What a hypocrisy, for COSATU to have issues with business cdes and itself its 
fully participating in the Investment business for whose interests? I do not 
think is for workers. Hence we have been saying this issue that in SA the RED 
Communist are very few most of them are Yellow Communist who just love the 
ideals of Communism and living a different live style.

Cdes, like we said there is no SACP and COSATU in ANC structures but ANC 
cadres. If we are to follow the SACP Constitution 6.4, it states "Members 
active in fraternal organisations or in any sector of the mass movement have a 
duty to set an example of loyalty, hard work and zeal in the performance of 
their duties and shall be bound by the discipline and decisions of such 
organisations and movement. They shall not create or participate in SACP 
caucuses within such organisations and movements designed to influence
either elections or policies. The advocacy of SACP policy on any question 
relating to the internal affairs of any such organisations or movements shall 
be by open public statements or at joint meetings between representatives of 
the SACP and such organisations or movements". 
If we are to use this as benchmark, it will then tell those noise markers that 
it is only through the ANC, wherein they must raise an issue and as ANC and not 
either be SACP or COSATU. Therefore, this call by COSATU and its Affiliates is 
very shy of the reality. When for example the State wanted money from Pension 
Fund to Bailout Companies to Stop Job Bloodbath, COSATU did not agree and today 
they cry that there had been a lot of job losses while they refuse to be part 
of the solution. By the way the money was to be loaned by the State and members 
were to get their money back. We should not be reduced to be ANC members 
without brains, we have brains and can be thinking tanks better than them. We 
are loyal ANC members, we do not loose at ANC/ANCYL and then goes to SACP/YCL 
to locate ourselves and start to think that we are equal partners.

Anyone with a view that suggest that we are Tsotsi's is tsotsi himself or 
herself as Thiefs come in different forms. Cdes you silency on those that name 
call us assume that you are in agreement with them, meaning you are guilty of 
name calling too. Why when teh ANCYL do the same you feel the heat.

By the way we have just emerge or are emerging from economic crisis, which the 
Party has never presented to Society its stand and alternative to resolve the 
challenges except noise making. When Capitalism was at its weakest, you find 
those pseudo communist mum on the aggressive path to push for a socialist path, 
it worrying and  do not care who says what. This party has gone somewhere and 
if you challenge we are labelled. I am writing this as a victim of Party 
leadership for name calling me a Bolsheviks for raising my views that are out 
of sink with their own wish. the moment you refuse to be a reformist you are 
labelled.

If you think you will attack the political leader of the ANCYL and we will keep 
quite, you are wrong because our defence of Juju-babe is a defence of the 
ANCYL.I always thought some Unionist have brains but to start to spit their 
bile about Malema's money & become silent on their members who terrorise our 
kids at school is worrying. If Malema has business interests,what the fuss all 
about? We are determined, no one will derail us on the 2012 Project. Why 
silence on Snr Party members who use their Spouse and Wives to gain from 
tenders? Lets be genuine on this fight. If its about name and shame, we can do 
more but the question is at whose interest?

Lets talk.

>>> "Tshabalala,Lebohang (GPDPR)" <[email protected]> 
>>> 2010/02/22 12:09 PM >>>
Sandile I agree with you here, the Provincial Secretary of the ANCYL in
Gauteng is missing an opportunity to present supporting facts. 



But equally what is unfortunate is this name calling thing on behalf of
the leadership and structures of the ANCYL Gauteng. To refer to the GS
of the Party as he did is totally out of order and very much
unfortunate. I am just commenting on my personal capacity as a member of
the ANCYL in Gauteng Province [who happens to be in good standing] that
I am convinced that structures of the ANCYL in the Province will not
agree with the insinuations made by its Secretary regarding Cdes Blade &
Zwelinzima. Lastly I hope Cde Kupa will be alive to fact that when he
releases an official statement it represents the ANCYL in Gauteng, which
therefore suggests that it can't be based on personal views and
emotions.  









From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 11:51 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Fwd: ANC YL Media STATEMENT OF ANCYL
GAUTENG PROVINCE ON THE VICIOUS ATTACK OF OUR PRESIDENT JULIUS MALEMA



Of yellow communists and blue eyed boys.

I read this statement three times trying to understand what is its
message. There is absolutely nothing. It has not made anymore certain as
to the validity of the allegations levelled against Cde President. This
is the highest level of staunchism. Staunchists (fanatical supporters,
who cannot and are not interested in fact and reason) like Kupa are
feeding the frenzy by reducing to name calling and miss an opportunity
to present supporting facts. What does Mr. R500000 and yellow communist
mean? And so what if Cde President is from a poor family, does that give
him carte blanch to plunder as he pleases. This is really shallow.

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From: Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> 

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:13:35 +0200

To: <[email protected]>

Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Fwd: ANC YL Media STATEMENT OF ANCYL GAUTENG
PROVINCE ON THE VICIOUS ATTACK OF OUR PRESIDENT JULIUS MALEMA





STATEMENT OF ANCYL GAUTENG PROVINCE ON THE VICIOUS ATTACK OF OUR
PRESIDENT JULIUS MALEMA 



21 February 2010 

The  Gauteng ANCYL wishes to express its outmost disgust on the recent
media reports that seek to portray President  Julius Malema as a corrupt
individual as coined by  yellow communist and embraced by  white
capitalist controlled sensational media.  We reject this assertion and
its association to our President, who by the way is not a public servant
or any thing of that sort.

We wish to state on record that President Malema is employed by the
African National Congress (ANC). When masses of our people called on him
to serve the state and its institutions; he requested the leadership
collective to allow him to finish his task as President of the ANCYL.
Unlike those who jumped into the bandwagon to serve that state
irrespective of task given by their respective organizations. We are
fully aware that they did so to build friendship with the media and
imperialist to attack the moral standing of our President.  We thought
this tendency of using state apparatus and media to attack fellow
comrades was defeated in Polokwane, little did we know that it continues
raising its ugly head post Polokwane.  

We wish to take this opportunity to remind South Africans at large that
President Malema is a political activist who is a child of working-class
and poor family. His work for the poor is well known to everyone;
therefore any attempt by forces that connives with capital to discredit
him has never and will not succeed.  

We are very clear as Gauteng ANCYL that we currently in the congress
mood, hence many comrades are attempting to deflect our attention from
both policy (Nationalization) and leadership articulation and preference
debate throughout our structures in the province and national. With
regard to nationalization, the debate is on how it should happen not
whether it will happen. We are taking this policy debate to our
structures and eventually the ANC NGC later this year. Structures of the
ANCYL in Gauteng and we believe the rest of the country are singing
Fikile Mbalula for ANC Secretary General in 2012. This call is not made
by President Malema, rather all structures of the organization. Those
who wish to silence and deter us from mobilization young people who have
already swelled the ranks of the ANC and postured in favour of
generational mix leadership debate should not attempt to defocus us from
this important task of the organization. 

Those deployed in government and not delivering the mandate of the ANC
should not equally seek to use the state machinery to persecute one of
our own (President Malema). Through our President we will continue
challenging those who are inefficient, lazy and corrupt.  Our campaign
to fix the rotten Public Enterprise, Mining Departments and the over
dominance of minorities in the economic cluster of the cabinet are
issues we will continue raising sharply. 

We support the lifestyle audit of those in government, trade unions in
particular Zwelinzima Vavi and Mr. R500, 000 plastic bag.  We call upon
independent auditors to check transactions and accumulation during the
same period.  

President Malema like any other human being know people and for the
record he does not dish out tenders as alleged by yellow communist and
the white capitalist media. Any attempt to associate a success of a
black child to corruption is malicious and unwarranted.  We refuse to
accept all nonsensical weekend publications and we will work tirelessly
to inform our structure soon  on the overall plot and battles ahead. 
  
Forward to 2012 
  
Issued by ANCYL Gauteng 
  
Contact Provincial Secretary 
Cde. Thabo Kupa 
079 8111222 
[email protected] 
  

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