Mike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anthony...

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Steve,
> 
> If we subscribe to Bill!'s assertion that at the root of all religion we can 
> find zen, then yes, I do feel that the central realisation of the religions 
> you 
> mentioned (esp Advaita Vedenat, Dzogchen and Zen) are the same. In simple 
> terms, 
> they all cite that when we strip away our mind of desires and aversions etc. 
> then only Awareness (Spirit/Buddha Nature/Self/Tao/God etc) remains. The 
> difference lies in the outward features of the respective paths (rituals, 
> sutras 
> versus tantra etc), but at their heart I would say they are the same.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: SteveW <eugnostos2000@...>
> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, 13 February, 2011 0:32:23
> Subject: Re: [Zen] visualization
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown <uerusuboyo@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > Still in India and just letting you know I'm still alive (but a lot 
> > thinner..). 
> >
> > It's been an amazing experience so far and I've learned a lot from being 
> > here. 
> 
> > Just thought I'd add something to this thread. Has anyone read the book by 
> > Ken 
> 
> > Wilber: Grace and Grit (1991) about his wife who had, and died from, 
> > cancer? A 
> >
> > remarkable insight into dying, death and (ultimately) how to live. Wilber 
> > himself (at the the time of writing) had been sitting (Zen) for 15 years 
> > and 
> > Treya, his wife, had been studying vipassana for 10 years. They both 
> > incorporated transpersonal pyschology, yoga, Tibetan Buddhism and the 
> > teachings 
> >
> > of Ramana Maharshi (something for everyone!) into their dealing with cancer 
> > and 
> >
> > I can say it's a very powerful book. If anyone has read it and would like 
> > to 
> > discuss it, I'd be happy to oblige! 
> > 
> > Namaste,
> > 
> > Mike 
> > 
> > Hi Mike. I am pleased to meet you. I have read a few of Wilber's 
> books, but not that one, although he mentions his wife's death
> in his other writings. You mention Maharshi. Tell me, do you 
> find the central realization of the non-dual traditions of Zen,
> Advaita Vedanta, Kashmir Shaivism and Dzogchen to be the same?
> Steve
> >
>




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