--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Steve,
> 
> If we subscribe to Bill!'s assertion that at the root of all religion we can 
> find zen, then yes, I do feel that the central realisation of the religions 
> you 
> mentioned (esp Advaita Vedenat, Dzogchen and Zen) are the same. In simple 
> terms, 
> they all cite that when we strip away our mind of desires and aversions etc. 
> then only Awareness (Spirit/Buddha Nature/Self/Tao/God etc) remains. The 
> difference lies in the outward features of the respective paths (rituals, 
> sutras 
> versus tantra etc), but at their heart I would say they are the same.
> 
> Mike
> 
> Hi again, Mike. I would like to add that in order to reconcile
  the various non-dual traditions in an intellectual, philosophical
  way, one must subscribe to some form of Dhatu-Vada thought. Some
  scholars, such as Matsumoto, do not regard this as being truly
  Buddhist. Personally, I do not much worry about whether or not 
  I Am A Member In Good Standing In The Club, regardless of which
  Club is being referred to.
  My opinion at this time.
  Steve 





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