Mike:
 
Mindfulness is both: The technique  in order to produce it and the energy that 
you get through the tools used.  
 
We may both mean at the end the same thing but are getting entangled with the 
words.  
You said that those techniques may be something at the end one will need to let 
go.  Once mindfulness becomes ones natural daily way of living there is nothing 
to let go as that is one second skin. Pay attention to TNH.  Mindfulness is his 
second skin.  He doesn't need to be worried about any technique and yet 
he makes use of his in and out conscious breath, most important tool in 
mindfulness.  But all that is as natural in him as eating, sleeping, sitting 
down, laughing....There is nothing to let go.  We let go something when we 
cling onto it.  There is no clinging in mindfulness.
 
Mayka
 
 
 
 
--- On Thu, 3/3/11, mike brown <[email protected]> wrote:


From: mike brown <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Realization
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, 3 March, 2011, 16:31


  





Mayka,
 

>zazen is a technique. Using the awareness of the in and out breathing to come 
>back hone to your true home is also a >technique or a tool whatever you want 
>to call it.  And so what? .  Why you shouldn't made use of it if it's 
>available there >for you to use it when you need it?. 
 
 
But that's exactly what I'm saying! All the above (including mindfulness) are 
techniques and ultimately have to be let go of. And what is left after they 
have been let go of? Awareness. Awareness always is even before you decide to 
do something. You can forget about being mindful, but you can't be anything 
other than aware. That's why all the great masters say you are already 
enlightened and there is nothing to do. 
 
 

>Why you should open a can beer with your teeth when you can use your both 
>hands?. Why you should give to your teeth a hard time >when you have your both 
>hands to open it?
You're stuck on the technique again, rather than what the technique is for. If 
I tell you how the beer tastes from the glass, why focus on the methods used to 
open the can?
 
Mike





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