Mike,

I do not apprehend the point you intend to communicate.

--ED



--- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
>
> ED,
>
> Isn't faith a belief in the absence of proof/evidence? By the time you
begin shikantaza you should have already spent sometime practicing
'watching the breath' zazen and working on the breakthrough koans. It's
not really something  you do by choice, but are directed to do by your
teacher once you have experienced the efficacy of those earlier
meditations.
>
> Mike



> If  Zen is not faith-based, what are the facts and logic behind a
person's choice
> to do Shikantaza?
> --ED


> > I do say that the essense of zen is not faith-based and its practice
is not a
> >relgion...Bill!



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