--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> > The collapse of these distributions into the macro world is not
> currently understood, but it seems to have something to do with the
> interactions between small systems and the whole mass of reality.
> 
> 
> 
> Possibly the best way to get a handle on wave-function collapse and its
> interaction with the environment is via the concept of 'quantum
> decoherence':
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_decoherence
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_decoherence>
> 
> --ED
> 
> IMO, decoherence is a dodge. It doesn't explain collapse, but merely sweeps 
> it under the rug. Recent experiments have cast doubt on it. There are 7 or so 
> paradigms for interpreting QM (see Nick Herbert's Quantum Realities), but it 
> all comes down to the collapse or non-collapse of the probability wave 
> function. Scientists will either endorse decoherence or else the Many Worlds 
> paradigm in order to preserve the scientific principle of strong objectivity 
> and also to avoid considering consciousness as anything other than an 
> incidental epiphenomenon. I personally endorse the Von Neumann model of 
> consciousness causing collapse. This is at present a minority view-point 
> because it flies in the face of the beloved principle of strong objectivity. 
> But it is in perfect accord with Buddhist Vijnanavada philosophy. Western 
> scientists are biased in favor of reductive materialism, imo.
Steve



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