--- In [email protected], "SteveW" <eugnostos2000@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > The collapse of these distributions into the macro world is not
> > currently understood, but it seems to have something to do with the
> > interactions between small systems and the whole mass of reality.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Possibly the best way to get a handle on wave-function collapse and its
> > interaction with the environment is via the concept of 'quantum
> > decoherence':
> > 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_decoherence
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_decoherence>
> > 
> > --ED
> > 
> > IMO, decoherence is a dodge. It doesn't explain collapse, but merely sweeps 
> > it under the rug. Recent experiments have cast doubt on it. There are 7 or 
> > so paradigms for interpreting QM (see Nick Herbert's Quantum Realities), 
> > but it all comes down to the collapse or non-collapse of the probability 
> > wave function. Scientists will either endorse decoherence or else the Many 
> > Worlds paradigm in order to preserve the scientific principle of strong 
> > objectivity and also to avoid considering consciousness as anything other 
> > than an incidental epiphenomenon. I personally endorse the Von Neumann 
> > model of consciousness causing collapse. This is at present a minority 
> > view-point because it flies in the face of the beloved principle of strong 
> > objectivity. But it is in perfect accord with Buddhist Vijnanavada 
> > philosophy. Western scientists are biased in favor of reductive 
> > materialism, imo.
> Steve
>
  CORRECTION: The book is titled Quantum Reality. Sorry for the typo.
  Steve



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