Zendervish, D.T.Suzuki explains the non-dualistic (he knows well) from the perspective of intellectual, dualistic and more easily understood statements. It is not easy, but he did it great. Anthony
--- On Wed, 20/7/11, salik888 <[email protected]> wrote: From: salik888 <[email protected]> Subject: [Zen] Re: Zen elements? To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, 20 July, 2011, 10:48 PM Peace And by what authority do you, Ed, and Anthony judge Mr Suzuki's writings. Are the writings here considerably more authentic? Best wishes Zendervish --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > ED, > > DT Suzuki certainly is expressing below the results of a lot of discursive > thinking. > > I don't agree with all of the details of his quote below, but I do agree with > his central point - zen is the foundation of all. > > I consider DT Suzuki primarily a Buddhist scholar. Although he did study Zen > Buddhism he never received 'inca' (permission to teach) as a dharma successor > of any Zen master - that I know of. His books do address Buddhism and Zen > Buddhism from a intellectual, scholarly perspective so this quote doesn't > surprise me. > > He is not someone that I would look to or recommend as a great communicator > of zen. Buddhsim and maybe Zen Buddhism - yes; but just plain old zen - no. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi zendervish, Bill and All, > > > > DT Suzuki appears to be indulging in a lot of un-zenlike discursive > > thinking, no? > > > > --ED > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "salik888" <novelidea8@> wrote: > > > > > Greetings > > > > This little tidbit of Buddhist Modernism throws a loop around the > > experience of > > the integral source that Sufism likewise expresses. > > > > Zen is the ultimate fact of all philosophy and religion. Every > > intellectual > > effort must culminate in it, or rather must start from it, if it is to > > bear any > > practical fruits. Every religious faith must spring from it if it has to > > prove > > at all efficiently and livingly workable in our active life. Therefore > > Zen is > > not necessarily the fountain of Buddhist thought and life alone; it is > > very much > > alive also in Christianity, Mohammedanism, in Taoism, and even > > positivistic > > Confucianism. What makes all these religions and philosophies vital and > > inspiring, keeping up their usefulness and efficiency, is due to the > > presence in > > them of what I may designate as the Zen element. > > > > DT Suzuki > > > > zendervish > > >
