Edgar,
Well, I've put it badly, then; and, you are right.
I'd say now that there is no zen without realization; and there is no
realization without zazen.
I think the words of this more elaborated sentence actually are those of the
late Robert Aitken Roshi, of Hawai'i.
A few people in history may have had something like kensho or wu or mu
experiences. Maybe many. But, for someone who is drawn to a Zen forum (such
as the readers and posters here), the way is probably going to be Zazen, and so
I emphasize it.
Zazen becomes even more important after such an experience, I'd say. Else, the
experience fades to just a strong and unforgettable memory.
Friendly Greetings,
--Joe
> Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>
> Total nonsense that " ... there is no Zen without zazen"..
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