Suresh, I don't know what this sound is. I have never heard a hissing like you describe. I sometimes hear things, like a soft ebb and flow, and I assume that has something to do with my bodily functions.
I don't think this hissing your describe is the same as Mozart's 'music of the spheres', but I really don't know. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, SURESH JAGADEESAN <varamtha@...> wrote: > > Bill > > It is not blood pressure. This sound will appear when you are more relaxed. > This is certainly not a medical issue. > > I even read Ramana maharishi books he also mention this sound. Also > J.Krisnamurti mention about it. > > In olden days a siddha Thirumuler and a siddha Sivavakkiyar also mention > about this unstruck dazzaling sound in their poems. > > I understand it as sound of universe. Silence is not silence it is infact > sound else how can you produce sound. > > Emptiness of universe is not emptiness, it is consciousness, full of light > and sound a base product for all forms that exist in this universe. > > Suresh > On Oct 20, 2012 5:49 AM, "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > > [image: Boxbe] <https://www.boxbe.com/overview> This message is eligible > > for Automatic Cleanup! (BillSmart@...) Add cleanup > > rule<https://www.boxbe.com/popup?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boxbe.com%2Fcleanup%3Ftoken%3D63D0MozsGKHz07Kip%252FrBq4htXKQ%252Fu%252B5JTDn%252F84dGGquodKI93%252FnXj4ulZJYIRXiYjJK0SyBhggUZN8QbIUdBJbDdKYn5UzmJnvzd3scgdCI7ZqvoKEGJSMIgf5DXMwHttM%252Ft7ibnmSMSQbKJK%252Fyf3A%253D%253D%26key%3DK2L5oNOJRzsWNVsxn%252BeF2MVmE80vahjxWrGXy3BguqY%253D&tc=12706308053_134786317>| > > More > > info<http://blog.boxbe.com/general/boxbe-automatic-cleanup?tc=12706308053_134786317> > > > > ** > > > > > > Merle and Suresh, > > > > Ringing in your ears can be a sign of high blood pressure. I don't know if > > that's the same as hissing or not..Bill! > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > hi suresh.. > > > welcome to this group..we are all kind to each other so you are with > > good friends.. > > > when you say bike..do you mean  you peddle to work?..2 hours each > > way...there is plenty of time for zen in this activity.. > > > as long as you do not have traffic to consider...what type of work are > > you involved with?...and where do you live in the city? > > > > > >  i am sorry to hear about your 2 sons..you have a lot on your plate > > > > > >  in this group there are some very wise people who will give you plenty > > of guidance in the zen experience..they are seasoned practitioners! > > > > > >  i ask is this hiss sound... are your ears okay... have you had them > > checked medically? > > > > > >  group..what does this mean the hiss????? ringing in the ears etc..is a > > medical condition > > > > > > as joe says it is good if you could some how go to a retreat for even a > > couple of days.. > > > or find a teacher > > >  if this is not available for you as your time is so limited i am sure > > the group will assist you in any way possible, strengthen your practise and > > give you excellent advice > > >  so i think it goes without saying feel free to ask.. > > > as the old saying goes.. > > > ask and you will receive knock and the door will open... > > > peace be with you.. > > > merle.. > > > p.s. are you a male or female..by your name i cannot tell > > >  > > > Merly > > > Thanks for your mail. > > > First son is 10 year old and 2nd son is 5 year old. My 2nd son is still > > develop speech. 1st son has broken conversation and understanding is poor. > > He cannot easily talk to other. > > > I go office by bike. In truth most of the time my mind is occupied in > > thoughts and now a days i am practicing to utter god name siva. > > > But i am going through some spiritual experience which is similar to > > zen. I hear hiss sound continuously and when alone in room or toilet this > > sound is strongly heard which do not obscure outer sound. Iam more alert > > those time and no thoughts. This may be you can call buddha nature. > > > Thanks again > > > Suresh > > > On Oct 19, 2012 5:30 PM, "Merle Lester" <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! (merlewiitpom@) Add > > cleanup rule | More info > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are you new to this list suresh?...i am so sorry to hear about your > > children..how old are they? > > > >my son who is highly intelligent has ocd and clinical depression..he is > > 35 now..he was strange as a kiddy...we just thought he would grow out of > > it..the ocd creates anxiety...the anxiety gets out of control and hence the > > depression > > > >it has been an on going struggle as a parent when he became ill with > > panic attacks in early 20's... > > > > are you travelling 2 hours in public transport?..this is a good time > > to practise your quiet time..sitting silently..if you are driving a > > car..then concentrate on driving...part of meditation is to do what you are > > doing and that only...doing meditation...being present... > > > > of course we here all of us i am sure ask ourselves who we are... as > > the old saying goes..know thy self..( socrates) > > > >i would not call autism mental retardation..there are some surprisingly > > extremely bright and highly gifted people who are autistic > > > >peace be with you > > > > merle > > > > > > > >Dear Mr.Bill, > > > > > > > >I understand your explanation. But please note I cannot just sit and > > > >do meditation. I have two children and both are autistic ( a kind of > > > >mental retardation), and hence they wouldnât allow me to sit for 5 > > > >minutes. So I have to be on toes always. > > > > > > > >And I need to work for me and my family to have a better life, what I > > > >mean here is without working I cannot eat even for a single month. So > > > >when one is working from 9 to 6 and travelling > > > time is 2 hours and > > > >moment you reach home, you have kids which need to take for > > > >Occupational therapy, speech therapy etc., Even in weekends there are > > > >classes like Music class, Key board class, computer class and skating > > > >class. By the time I finish taking my children to all classes I am > > > >dead tired, but even in bed you cannot sleep so peacefully, because > > > >they have very poor sleep, even for smallest sound, my children will > > > >wake up and they wake me up. So every day one cannot have good sleep > > > >also. > > > > > > > >So in this kind of situation, how can I sit for meditation? You seems > > > >practicing Zen, have you ever reached Buddha nature? > > > > > > > >You said â'I am touching this rock, and there is an 'I' (self) and a > > > >'rock' and they are separate things.'â > > > > > > > >Can you tell me what is this self? Have you ever questioned yourself > > > >âWho am Iâ . > > > > > > > >The duality is created by you and you want to dissolve it by > > > yourself? > > > > > > > >Can you tell me a technique for a person like me who is totally > > > >occupied in his life and no time to sit silently? > > > > > > > >Best wishes > > > >Suresh > > > > > > > > > > > >On 10/19/12, Bill! <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > >> This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! 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