Chris,

In certain moods, maybe a more resonant Western classical figure is that of 
Odysseus.  He was trying to keep alive each day, yes, but as much as or more 
than anything -- in addition to all his other efforts and exertions -- he was 
just trying to get Home!  ;-)

--Joe

PS Funnily, another thing Shifu Sheng Yen used to say was, "If you find 
yourself on a pirate ship, the best thing to do is be a Pirate!"

> Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote:
>
> Totally agree on the posture.  I wish we could introduce a word
> "body/mind" to English usage.  It is much more precise.
> 
> The riff on giving up hope is my summary of a lot of Joko Beck's
> transcribed dharma talks in "Nothing Special."  -- e.g.:
> 
> In talking about Sisyphus:
> 
> "What would be the enlightened state for King Sisyphus?  If he pushes
> the rock a few thousand years, what may he finally realize? .... Just
> to push the rock and to have abandoned hope that his life will be
> other than it is.  .... if we simply push our current boulder and
> practice being aware of what goes on with us as we push, we slowly
> transform."




------------------------------------

Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are 
reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    [email protected] 
    [email protected]

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    [email protected]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Reply via email to