PBS (That's going to be my TLA (Three Letter Acronym) for Pandabananasock from 
now on)...

I'll ignore all the math but do agree that JUST IF there is such a think that 
could be called 'karma' it's not so much a moralistic cause-and-effect as it is 
an intrinsic quality of the act itself.

But, I'll continue to poo-poo all claims of karma.

...Bill!

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, pandabananasock@... wrote:
>
> 
> Most people think of "1+1=2" as procedural, that is, that there is 1, THEN we 
> add 1 to it, THEN it becomes 2.  They would regard "2=1+1" and "2=2" to be 
> different equations, but they are not in the least bit different.  The 
> equal-sign is the present.
> "1+1" is already 2!  And the effect IS the cause.  Your karmic punishment for 
> doing something "bad" is you doing that "bad" thing.  Your karmic reward for 
> doing something "good" is you doing that "good" thing.  Forget the 
> come-back-to-bite-you BS!
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
>  On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 4:58 AM EDT Bill! wrote:
>  
>  >
>  >...Bill!
>




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