I certainly did NOT mean any hostility whatsoever.  I highly value what
Richard offers in this forum.  I'm just frustrated at the misinformation
which is being presented as authoritative.  Repeatedly.

But to be clear, in my mind Richard is one of the "good ones" and I
eagerly read what he has to say -- to the point that when he chimes
in on a thread I've been ignoring I start reading it, and always
learn something.  OK enough of that, back to the bashing!  :-)

-frank

On January 22, 2007 12:02:03 PM -0700 "Jason J. W. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Frank,

I'm sure Richard will check it out. He's a very good guy and not
trying to jerk you around. I'm sure the hostility isn't warranted. :-)

Best Regards,
Jason

On 1/22/07, Frank Cusack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On January 22, 2007 10:03:14 AM -0800 Richard Elling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Toby Thain wrote:
>  > To be clear: the X2100 drives are neither "hotswap" nor "hotplug"
>  > under Solaris. Replacing a failed drive requires a reboot.
>
> I do not believe this is true, though I don't have one to test.

Well if you won't accept multiple technically adept people's word on it,
I highly suggest you get one to test instead of speculating.

>  If this
> were true, then we would have had to rewrite the disk drivers to not
> allow us to open a device more than once, even if we also closed the
> device. I can't imagine anyone allowing such code to be written.

Obviously you have not rewritten the disk drivers to do this, so this is
the wrong line of reasoning.

> However, I don't believe this is the context of the issue.  I believe
> that this release note deals with the use of NVRAID (NVidia's MCP RAID
> controller)
> which does not have a systems management interface under Solaris.  The
> solution is to not use NVRAID for Solaris.  Rather, use the proven
> techniques
> that we've been using for decades to manage hot plugging drives.

No, the release note is not about NVRAID.

> In short, the release note is confusing, so ignore it.  Use x2100
> disks as hot pluggable like you've always used hot plug disks in
> Solaris.

Again, NO these drives are not hot pluggable and the release note is
accurate.  PLEASE get a system to test.  Or take our word for it.

-frank
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