Chris Siebenmann wrote: > | I very strongly disagree. The closest ZFS equivalent to ufsdump is > | 'zfs send'. 'zfs send' like ufsdump has initmiate awareness of the > | the actual on disk layout and is an integrated part of the filesystem > | implementation. > > I must strongly disagree in turn, at least for Solaris 10. 'zfs send' > suffers from three significant defects: > > - you cannot selectively restore files from a 'zfs send' archive; > restoring is an all or nothing affair. > > - incrementals can only be generated relative to a snapshot, which > means that doing incrementals may require you to use up significant > amounts of disk space. > > - it is currently explicitly documented as not being forward or backwards > compatible. (I understand that this is not really the case and that this > change of heart will be officially documented at some point; I hope that > people will forgive me for not basing a backup strategy on word of future > changes.) > > The first issue alone makes 'zfs send' completely unsuitable for the > purposes that we currently use ufsdump. I don't believe that we've lost > a complete filesystem in years, but we restore accidentally deleted > files all the time. (And snapshots are not the answer, as it is common > that a user doesn't notice the problem until well after the fact.) > > ('zfs send' to live disks is not the answer, because we cannot afford > the space, heat, power, disks, enclosures, and servers to spin as many > disks as we have tape space, especially if we want the fault isolation > that separate tapes give us. most especially if we have to build a > second, physically separate machine room in another building to put the > backups in.) >
It does depend on your requirements. I use ZFS send/receive to save my stuff to (multiple) USB drives. One is stored onsite in a fire safe and the other is stored offsite. There is no requirement that the target device is spinning except when you are copying. By using this method, I can follow the declining price of disks over time: by the time I have 500 GBytes of pictures, a 1TByte disk will cost $70. I have also sent snapshots to DVDs, but in truth tape will be easier because it can store much more. Contrary to popular belief, tapes are still the best long-term storage medium. The commercial backup products work with ZFS without needing to use the send/receive interfaces. -- richard _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss