Torrey, now this impressive as the old days with Sun Storage.

Ok, ZFS PiT is only a software solution.
The Windows VSS is not only a software solution, but also a 3rd party 
integration standard from MS.
What's your comment on ZFS PiT is better than MS PiT, in light of openness 
and 3rd-party integration???

Talking about garbage!
z


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Torrey McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Richard Elling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Joseph Zhou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "William D. Hathaway" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
<zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Hardware Raid Vs ZFS implementation on Sun 
X4150/X4450


> Richard Elling wrote:
>> Joseph Zhou wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah?
>>> http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/products/Controllers/Hardware/sas/value/SAS-31605/_details/Series3_FAQs.htm
>>> Snapshot is a big deal?
>>>
>>
>> Snapshot is a big deal, but you will find most "hardware" RAID 
>> implementations
>> are somewhat limited, as the above adaptec only supports 4 snapshots and 
>> it is an
>> optional feature.  You will find many array vendors will be happy to 
>> charge lots
>> of money for the snapshot feature.
>
> On top of that since the ZFS snapshot is at the file system level it's 
> much easier to use. You don't have to quiesce the file system first or 
> hope that when you take the snapshot you get a consistent data set. I've 
> seen plenty of folks take hw raid snapshots without locking the file 
> system first, let alone quiescing the app, and getting garbage. 

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