On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Edward Ned Harvey
<solar...@nedharvey.com>wrote:

> > From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
> > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Nicolas Williams
> >
> > > I recently got a new SSD (ocz vertex LE 50gb)
> > >
> > > It seems to work really well as a ZIL performance wise.
> > > I know it doesn't have a supercap so lets' say dataloss
> > > occurs....is it just dataloss or is it pool loss?
> >
> > Just dataloss.
>
> WRONG!
>
> The correct answer depends on your version of solaris/opensolaris.  More
> specifically, it depends on the zpool version.  The latest fully updated
> sol10 and the latest opensolaris release (2009.06) only go up to zpool 14
> or
> 15.  But in zpool 19 is when a ZIL loss doesn't permanently offline the
> whole pool.  I know this is available in the developer builds.
>
> The best answer to this, I think, is in the ZFS Best Practices Guide:
> (uggh, it's down right now, so I can't paste the link)
>
> If you have zpool <19, and you lose an unmirrored ZIL, then you lose your
> pool.  Also, as a configurable option apparently, I know on my systems, it
> also meant I needed to power cycle.
>
> If you have zpool >=19, and you lose an unmirrored ZIL, then performance
> will be degraded, but everything continues to work as normal.
>
> Apparently the most common mode of failure for SSD's is also failure to
> read.  To make it worse, a ZIL is only read after system crash, which means
> the possibility of having a failed SSD undetected must be taken into
> consideration.  If you do discover a failed ZIL after crash, with zpool <19
> your pool is lost.  But with zpool >=19 only the unplayed writes are lost.
> With zpool >=19, your pool will be intact, but you would lose up to 30sec
> of
> writes that occurred just before the crash.
>
>
> I didn't ask about losing my zil.

I asked about power loss taking out my pool.
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