The Baha'i Studies Listserv >> Baha'i Faith (Baha'u'llah, Leland Jensen if BUPC)1817-1892, 1914-1996 >> Ahmadiyya Islam aka Qadianism (Mirza Ghulam Ahmad) 1835-1908 > I Kuan Tao, Yi Guan Dao (Lu Zhongyi) 1849-1929 >> Scientology (Lafayette Ronald Hubbard) 1911-1986 >> Neo Gnosticism aka Universal Christian Gnostic Church (Samael Aun Weor) >> 1917-1977 >> Adi Dam (Adi Da Love Ananda Samraj) 1939-2008 >> Interfaith Institute of Divine Love aka Kalki Avatar, Mahdi, Messiah, etc. >> Foundation International (Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi) 1941-Disappeared, Some say >> died in 2001 or 2003, So basically he's in Occultation >> Mission of Maitreya, Eternal Divine Path (Joseph Emmanuel, Ahmad ibn >> Abdullah) 1944- >> Raëlism (Claude Vorilhon aka Raël) 1946-
Sent from my iPad On Apr 30, 2013, at 20:21, Stephen Kent Gray <skg_z...@yahoo.com> wrote: > I'll skip over Messiah, Christ, and Mahdi for Kalki and Maitreya, not to > mention any Avatar and Buddha. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalki > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_avatar_claimants > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitreya > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_buddha_claimants > > I also recommend look at older revisions of each and every Wikipedia link > ever. It's to look up the pages over time because constant editing can leave > interesting information off the current page. Also, I Kuan Tao and Yi Guan > Dao are different transliterations of the same Chinese. > > To specify, here is an example set of lists below. > > Avatar > Mata Amritanandamayi > Meher Baba > Mother Meera > Sahaja Yoga (Nirmala Sristava) > > Kalki > Adi Dam > Ahmadiyya > Baha'i Faith > Foundation International > Mission of Maitreya, Eternal Divine Path > Neo Gnosticism > > Maitreya > Adi Dam > Ahmadiyya > Baha'i Faith > I Kuan Tao, Yi Guan Dao > Mission of Maitreya, Eternal Divine Path > Raëlism > Scientology > > Both Kalki and Maitreya > Adi Dam > Ahmadiyya > Baha'i Faith > Mission of Maitreya, Eternal Divine Path > > Kalki only > Foundation International > Neo Gnosticism > > Maitreya only > I Kuan Tao, Yi Guan Dao > Raëlism > Scientology > >> Adi Dam (Adi Da Love Ananda Samraj) >> Ahmadiyya Islam aka Qadianism (Mirza Ghulam Ahmad) >> Baha'i Faith (Baha'u'llah, Leland Jensen if BUPC) > I Kuan Tao, Yi Guan Dao (Lu Zhongyi) >> Kalki, Mahdi, Messiah, etc. Foundation International (Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi) >> Mission of Maitreya, Eternal Divine Path (Joseph Emmanuel, Ahmad ibn >> Abdullah) >> Neo Gnosticism aka Universal Christian Gnostic Church (Samael Aun Weor) >> Raëlism (Claude Vorilhon aka Raël) >> Scientology (Lafayette Ronald Hubbard) > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 29, 2013, at 19:25, Stephen Kent Gray <skg_z...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> The Baha'i Studies Listserv >> I should explain closer and in more depth. Religions and their scriptures >> predict Messiahs, Christs, Paracletes, Holy Spirits, Mahdis, Manifestations, >> Avatars, Kalkis, Buddhas, Maitreyas, etc. >> >> The Covenant requires investigations of all claimants. The Baha'i Faith >> advertises it this way. Your scripture promises, insert term above here. >> Baha'u'llah is a claimant to be, insert term above here. You should >> investigate Baha'u'llah's claims because the Covenant requires you to. Also, >> you should interpret prophecies symbolically to give leeway for claimants. >> The same marketing technique can be used for all claimants and produce a yes >> answer to them being who they claim to be. >> >> Why should Jews study the Baha'u'llah over all Jewish Messiah claimants? >> Why should Christians study Baha'u'llah over all return of Jesus, Paraclete, >> Holy Spirit, etc. claimants? >> Why should Muslims study Baha'u'llah over all Mahdi claimants? >> Why should Bayanis study Baha'u'llah over all Manifestation claimants? >> Why should Hindus study Baha'u'llah over all Kalki claimants? >> Why should Buddhists study Baha'u'llah over all Maitreya claimants? >> >> Side Note: Can one person be several of the above if not all? Can several >> people if not all be the same things above? >> >> Adi Dam (Adi Da Love Ananda Samraj) >> Ahmadiyya Islam aka Qadianism (Mirza Ghulam Ahmad) >> Baha'i Faith (Baha'u'llah) >> Islam (Muhammad) >> Ismaili Islam aka Ismailism (Ali through Aga Khan IV, Shia Imams) >> Kalki, Mahdi, Messiah, etc. Foundation International (Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi) >> Mission of Maitreya, Eternal Divine Path (Joseph Emmanuel, Ahmad ibn >> Abdullah) >> Neo Gnosticism aka Universal Christian Gnostic Church (Samael Aun Weor) >> Raëlism (Claude Vorilhon aka Raël) >> Scientology (Lafayette Ronald Hubbard) >> >> What do all the above have in common? Either they themselves or followers on >> their behalf have claimed their Kalki status and Maitreya status. Wikipedia >> links to articles about what Kalki and Maitreya prophecies they fulfill and >> how. For example, one I inadvertently ran across was the Maitreya boatsman >> prophecy on the bodhisattva page of Wikipedia. I have studied Scientology >> since High School despite all the controversy surrounding it. I also started >> studying Raëlism recently and have downloaded several e books from the Web. >> Also, I mention the above because I only felt like listing the prophecies of >> Indian Dharmic religions and not Abrahamic ones. I have also seen a paper on >> the Baha'i Faith in India and read about debates between Ahmadis and >> Baha'is. Explain why only Muhammad and Baha'u'llah mentioned above are Kalki >> and Maitreya, while reffering only to Hindu and Buddhist texts. >> >> I for one haven't combed through the Puranas and Sutras for each and every >> prophecy to compare each claimant to, but have seen various pages describing >> how each and every claimant above fulfills them. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalki >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitreya >> http://www.maitreya.org/ >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Apr 29, 2013, at 13:13, Stephen Kent Gray <skg_z...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> The Baha'i Studies Listserv >>> Hasan, any list of religions and spiritual traditions will show the almost >>> infinite number of Faiths, Communities, Revelations, etc. that exist and >>> are extant, not to mention extinct and reconstructed ones. >>> >>> Also, in the topic on post conventional morality, the topic was more on the >>> variety of new religious movements and their impacts on morality in society. >>> >>> Hasan, you seem to hold that religions and spiritual traditions are all >>> intrinsically higher than philosophies and thoughts. I have no opinion on >>> the matter, but am familiar with various religions like Raëlism, >>> Scientology, Neo Gnosticism, Adi Dam, Ahmadiyya aka Qadianism, Happy >>> Science aka Kofuku no Kagaku, Sahaja Yoga, Rastafarianism, etc. I'm not >>> that interested in them, but I know about them is the point. >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_new_religious_movements >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_religious_movement >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Neopagan_movements >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paganism_(contemporary) >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFO_religions >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_religion >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Buddha_claimants >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitreya >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_avatar_claimants >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalki >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_messiah_claimants >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Messiah_claimants >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_claimed_to_be_Jesus >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mahdi_claimants >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 15:32, Hasan Elías <hasanel...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The Baha'i Studies Listserv >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I read few messages of Stephen Gray, I think he trusts so much on >>>> philosophers and thinkers. I think Kohlberg and others are nothing and >>>> just vanishes when compared to Bahá'u'lláh's Revelation. >>>> >>>> The Guardian wrote: >>>> "Firmness in the Covenant is their Fortress, their greatest protection, >>>> and new Bahá'ís should be taught this before they are admitted into the >>>> Community. In this way they will be given the spiritual strenght to >>>> overcome the tests which are inevitable, and which strenghten the growth >>>> of the Community and drive its roots deeper in the soil of faith". >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Hasan >>>> De: Stephen Kent Gray <skg_z...@yahoo.com> >>>> Para: Baha'i Studies <bahai-st@list.jccc.edu> >>>> Enviado: Miércoles, 24 de abril, 2013 8:10 P. >>>> Asunto: Re: Against nature... >>>> >>>> The Baha'i Studies Listserv >>>> Don C, read Eight Ways to Run the Country by Brian Patrick Mitchell. From, >>>> this you sound like a populist which means nothing other than you side >>>> with people, but is meaningless ideology wise. >>>> >>>> You rejection of progressivism and its ideals, tell me you aren't anti >>>> archy and aren't pro kratos. This excludes you from being other anti archy >>>> ideologies like radicalism and indivudalism. This also excludes you from >>>> being other pro kratos ideologies like communitarianism and >>>> neoconservatism. What's left? Paleolibertarianism? Paleoconservatism? >>>> Theoconservatism? Populism? >>>> >>>> Read the book and review what you think of each and every chapter! >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On Apr 22, 2013, at 14:21, Don Calkins <don59...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The Baha'i Studies Listserv >>>>> i consider myself an independent centrist. I don't fit neatly into any >>>>> category. I am generally moderate, but have no compunction about >>>>> adapting workable ideas from a variety of perspectives. What is most >>>>> important, as Baha'u'llah has indicated, are the principles. >>>>> >>>>> "Think not that I have revealed a mere code of laws . . . . ." >>>>> >>>>> Don C >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 20, 2013, at 5:20 09PM, Stephen Kent Gray wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Don, which one of the eight ways are you? I'm Individualist, anti both >>>>>> ie archy and kratos. You are pro archy, anti kratos or Paleoconservative. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------ >>>>> He who believes himself spiritual proves he is not. >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-700295-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
