> On 17 Mar 2016, at 21:33, Marcelo Vanzin <van...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Reynold, thanks for the info.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Reynold Xin <r...@databricks.com> wrote:
>> If one really feels strongly that we should go through all the overhead to
>> setup an ASF subproject for these modules that won't work with the new
>> structured streaming, and want to spearhead to setup separate repos
>> (preferably one subproject per connector), CI, separate JIRA, governance,
>> READMEs, voting, we can discuss that. Until then, I'd keep the github option
>> open because IMHO it is what works the best for end users (including
>> discoverability, issue tracking, release publishing, ...).
> 
> For those of us who are not exactly familiar with the inner workings
> of administrating ASF projects, would you mind explaining in more
> detail what this overhead is?
> 
> From my naive point of view, when I say "sub project" I assume that
> it's a simple as having a separate git repo for it, tied to the same
> parent project. Everything else - JIRA, committers, bylaws, etc -
> remains the same. And since the project we're talking about are very
> small, CI should be very simple (Travis?) and, assuming sporadic
> releases, things overall should not be that expensive to maintain.
> 


If you want a separate project, eg. SPARK-EXTRAS, then it *generally* needs to 
go through incubation. While normally its the incubator PMC which 
sponsors/oversees the incubating project, it doesn't have to be the case: the 
spark project can do it.


Also Apache Arrow managed to make it straight to toplevel without that process. 
Given that the spark extras are already ASF source files, you could try the 
same thing, add all the existing committers, then look for volunteers to keep 
things.


You'd get
 -a JIRA entry of your own, easy to reassign bugs from SPARK to SPARK-EXTRAS
 -a bit of git
 -ability to set up builds on ASF Jenkins. Regression testing against spark 
nightlies would be invaluable here.
 -the ability to stage and publish through ASF Nexus


-Steve

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