Hi Shlomi, On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 02:42:50 +0300 Shlomi Fish <shlo...@shlomifish.org> wrote:
> Hi Shai, > > one note. > > On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 01:25:40 +0300 > Shai Berger <s...@platonix.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:50:33 +0300 > > Omer Zak <w...@zak.co.il> wrote: > > > > > אגיב בעברית, כי רשימת הדיוור הזו עובדת בעברית. > > > לדיונים באנגלית יש linux...@cs.huji.ac.il > > > > > > At any case, I would highly discourage taking community advice from > > ESR. Referring people to his "how to ask smart questions" is one of > > the surest ways to drive them away from your community, and his > > "Sex Tips for Geeks"[2], as much as I recall from looking at them > > many years ago, are misogynistic and generally appalling. > > > > This seems like an https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem fallacy > where you say "Person X is wrong here just because he also said this > and that with which I disagree". I can see how you'd read this into my earlier message, because I left out the part of the argument which, late last night, seemed kind of obvious to me: In the messages you linked, ESR throws around general accusations at "women-in-tech groups", based on an un-named source for whose reliability we are supposed to take ESR's own word. The very nature of the allegations casts huge doubt on them, but the onlt evidence which gives them an iota of credibility would be ESR's character. In this view, my argument is not "ESR is wrong here because he said other things with which I disagree" but rather "ESR is asking me to trust his judgment here, and on these subjects, I have reasons not to trust him". Shai. _______________________________________________ Discussions mailing list Discussions@hamakor.org.il http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions