On 7/23/2014 5:10 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote:
Personally, I don't think it's worth having a discussion here about
the merits of deleting these images. There's no chance in hell they
are going to be deleted from Commons. What I'm more interested in is
the locker-room nature of the discussions and how/if this can be
addressed, as I think that is actually more likely to dissuade female
contributors than the images themselves.
Ryan Kaldari
As long as they aren't in articles (or at least those most women are
likely to end up at), it's not likely most women will see them and be
dissuaded by that aspect of editing.
Constantly reminding women they exist through this list or the Gender
Gap Task Force probably would be more of a turn off.
On the other hand, having a separate list which will, among other
things, post notices of all such AfDs for those likely to want to AfD
them might help get rid of some of the worse ones. And it might raise
the consciousness of at least a few guys as to just how tacky they are.
(I might join it for a while, but there's only so much one can take!)
Another idea is to start "Stupid sexist Wikicommons upload of the week
(or day)" page or -more likely - off wiki blog and make sure Wikicommons
people all know about it. At least it would be evidence some in the
wiki community are fed up with it and make it generally easy to AfD the
most gratuitous images. Make it a facebook page with text making it
clear LIKE means you think it's stupid and should be the "Stupid sexist
upload of the Day/Week" - or whatever it might be called...
Who knows, it might make a lot more women interested in Wikimedia
projects (or not?)
Finally, let's try to post only things from the past year. Who knows,
maybe all those guys' consciousnesses have been raised 3% since we all
started talking about these issues and media have started covering it
and we might actually have improved things a bit since that 2011 posting :-)
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Radio_button_and_female_nude.jpg
CM
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