On 9/9/2014 7:51 PM, LB wrote:
I'm going to keep at it, for now. Honestly, I'm tired of it being a
mostly internally discussed problem... Perhaps I'll change my mind at
some point, but that's my thinking on it at this time.
Lightbreather
You are braver than I! On the other hand this is what
[[User:Jayen466|Andreas]] wrote when I complained the woman editor was
being harassed off line:
/ Criticising the quality of an editor's work, whether here or
elsewhere, is not harassment. This is not a private project, but a
public one, with a significant impact on public life. Any such public
project should be prepared to be criticised. If someone writes nonsense
in a science article read and relied on by a million people a year, that
is a matter of public interest, just like stories like
[http://twkozlowski.net/the-pot-and-the-kettle-the-wikimedia-way/ this],
[http://twkozlowski.net/paid-editing-thrives-in-the-heart-of-wikipedia/
this],
[http://www.salon.com/2013/05/17/revenge_ego_and_the_corruption_of_wikipedia/
this],
[http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/is-the-pr-industry-buying-influence-over-wikipedia
this] or
[http://www.dailydot.com/politics/croatian-wikipedia-fascist-takeover-controversy-right-wing/
this]. If you would like to curtail editors' freedom to speak out about
Wikipedia's failings in public, this in itself will be a media story,
and rightly so. Such ideas belong to places like Azerbaijan and North Korea.
/Thus one would think quoting nasty sexist things, especially when an
editor's name not mentioned should be ok. This really was a test case,
wasn't it? (Or not in a community that still applies double standards to
male vs. female actions.)
/
/Here's the link to the ANI in question:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive835#Harassment
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Carol Moore dc
<carolmoor...@verizon.net <mailto:carolmoor...@verizon.net>> wrote:
Frankly, given the hostility to the Gender Gap project, I have to
wonder about this Hashtag effort.
Lightbreather quoted some obnoxious guy statements a month ago
out of her own account and was roundly criticized. Forum shopping
and canvassing issues were raised while others applauded it. See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_170#Fed_up_with_the_status_quo...
I personally wouldn't do it because the wrong Admin who was
friends with people you quoted (or people who don't like you)
probably would get you blocked for weeks or months at a time. So
it could be a way to trap editors whose twitter accounts are
somehow linked to their user names.
I know at least one guy at an ANI got away with criticizing a
woman editor on her editing at a number of off wiki-sites. But
that doesn't mean any of us would get away with it.
And this also can be turned about the Gender Gap Project
"#GenderGapStupidity" or whatever.
So unless there was some community consensus on an appropriate way
to do this, I would tread carefully...
CM
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