Re: [GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback

[Adrien Monteleone]

You can tailor the colors and fonts to your liking using a custom CSS file. I’m 
not sure what you mean by ‘layout’ but the new Gtk+3 version does have more 
padding in many areas. I don’t think this is easily changeable, but it might be 
possible.

I’m not sure what is causing your flickering issues though. (I’m using High 
Sierra on a Mac Mini and don’t see any such issues) Those would probably be 
worth filing bug reports over. However, there’s a good chance those are video 
card related and might not be necessarily solvable via GnuCash code. Do you use 
any other Gtk+3 apps on your Mac? (if so and those apps don’t flicker, then 
that would help to show it is a GnuCash problem and not a Gtk problem)

Finally, note that there is a more recent version of 2.6, The latest out is 
2.6.21. It fixes several bugs from that 2.6.19-1 release. (The 2.6.20 had some 
major issues precipitating the 2.6.21 ‘final’ 2.6 release)

Regards,
Adrien

> On May 7, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Scott Cason via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have been using Gnucash for a while now on a OSX laptop.  So far I have 
> been satisfied with all its nuances.  However, this latest release I am more 
> than unhappy with.  I don't know if my issues are the same between all OS' 
> but as for my Mac I have gone back to v2.6.19-1.
> What I do not like about the new 3.1 is:(1) there seems to be a lot of 
> graphics issues at launch,,, page flickers and windows flash(2) basically, I 
> do not like the way the color scheme works;  colored tabs almost makes it 
> impossible to read the tab.  this is unlike prior versions where tab color 
> did not interfere with tab titles(3) overall, I do not like the new 
> layout/color/font... the look is totally different and I do not like it.(4) 
> Maybe if there weren't issues 1 and 2, #3 would not be quite so noticeable 
> and I might not have even noticed.
> 
> Thanks,Scott
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Re: [GNC] Tax Report Options not working

[David Carlson]

I cannot say whether version 3.x is different as I have not tried that, but
in the 2.6.x versions it is necessary  to use the tax report options
configuration to assign a tax form, line number and copy number to each tax
worthy account individually before it will appear in the Tax report.  Since
it is impossible to do this to more than one account at a time, it is very
tedious to set up initially, but it is nice once it is working.  In my case
I am in the US and using the US forms. I started with accounts that are
assigned to the basic income lines on the 1040 form.  If your tax situation
involves as many forms and lines as mine, it will probably take several
trials to find all the accounts that are tax worthy and get them correctly
assigned.

Once you feel that you are close you can check the Tax Info Column in the
Chart of Accounts to verify whether any given account is configured for the
tax report.

Since you state that you did those things but the information is not
'sticking', that is probably a bug in the 3.x release.  I know that others
have reported bugs with various reports in v3.x

Lets hear from others who have migrated with a previously configured tax
report.

David C

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 10:52 PM, Tom Charles  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am using v3.1 of GNUCash and I  am try to set up the Tax Schedule Report
> and cannot figure out why I cannot get the report to run and give me the
> expected data.   The message I get is the following:
>
> Period from 2018-Jan-01 to 2018-Dec-31
> Tax Year 2018
> Tax Entity Type: *None specified*
>  All amounts in USD unless otherwise noted
> The Income Tax Report is only available for valid Income Tax Entity
> Types. Go to the Edit->Tax Report Options dialog to change your Income Tax
> Entity Type selection and set up tax-related accounts.
>
> I did use the Edit->Tax Report Options to set the tax related information
> for my accounts.
>
> In the dialog box I select Edit. Then I set the "Type" to "Individual,
> Joint, etc. - Files US Form 1040 Tax Return", then clicked apply.
> I then went through and for each account that I wanted in the report I
> selected the "Tax Related" box, then selected the TXF category for each. I
> then clicked OK.
>
> I noticed when I looked at the accounts in the "Accounts" page it stated
> (under the "Tax Info" heading) for each account that the "Tax Entity Type
> was not specified" for every account I set up.  This seems to relate to the
> notice I get when I run the report.
>
>
> What am I missing? Any help would be much appreciated!
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Tom
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[GNC] Tax Report Options not working

[Tom Charles]

Hello,

I am using v3.1 of GNUCash and I  am try to set up the Tax Schedule Report
and cannot figure out why I cannot get the report to run and give me the
expected data.   The message I get is the following:

Period from 2018-Jan-01 to 2018-Dec-31
Tax Year 2018
Tax Entity Type: *None specified*
 All amounts in USD unless otherwise noted
The Income Tax Report is only available for valid Income Tax Entity
Types. Go to the Edit->Tax Report Options dialog to change your Income Tax
Entity Type selection and set up tax-related accounts.

I did use the Edit->Tax Report Options to set the tax related information
for my accounts.

In the dialog box I select Edit. Then I set the "Type" to "Individual,
Joint, etc. - Files US Form 1040 Tax Return", then clicked apply.
I then went through and for each account that I wanted in the report I
selected the "Tax Related" box, then selected the TXF category for each. I
then clicked OK.

I noticed when I looked at the accounts in the "Accounts" page it stated
(under the "Tax Info" heading) for each account that the "Tax Entity Type
was not specified" for every account I set up.  This seems to relate to the
notice I get when I run the report.


What am I missing? Any help would be much appreciated!

Thanks in advance!
Tom
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[GNC] "error parsing file" after upgrading from 2.6.x to 3.1

[Brian Buchalter]

Forgive me if this is a duplicate question, but I could not find any recent
results.

I am a macOS user and longtime Gnucash 2.6.x user. I wanted to try out the
new 3.1 release, but when I attempt to open my .gnucash file, I am told
there was an error parsing the file. No other information is given and the
file does not open.

Can anyone guide me in troubleshooting this please? If it's happening to
me, I imagine it's happening to others.

Thanks!

Brian
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[GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback

[Scott Cason via gnucash-user]

I have been using Gnucash for a while now on a OSX laptop.  So far I have been 
satisfied with all its nuances.  However, this latest release I am more than 
unhappy with.  I don't know if my issues are the same between all OS' but as 
for my Mac I have gone back to v2.6.19-1.
What I do not like about the new 3.1 is:(1) there seems to be a lot of graphics 
issues at launch,,, page flickers and windows flash(2) basically, I do not like 
the way the color scheme works;  colored tabs almost makes it impossible to 
read the tab.  this is unlike prior versions where tab color did not interfere 
with tab titles(3) overall, I do not like the new layout/color/font... the look 
is totally different and I do not like it.(4) Maybe if there weren't issues 1 
and 2, #3 would not be quite so noticeable and I might not have even noticed.

Thanks,Scott
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Re: [GNC] Handling VISA Debit Accounts

[Liz]

On Tue, 8 May 2018 11:35:09 +1000
Karen Stingel  wrote:

>I suppose the Account(s) would be most like case #2, they are
>individual Bank Accounts, with own Statements, and VISA enabled
> card as opposed to the old ATM card for withdrawing funds, no cheques
> - it was more or less the VISA bit that threw me


Karen, feel free to ask questions. 
No question is silly, although it may be basic, without basics you
can't build your understanding of finance, banking, bookkeeping and
accounting.

Liz
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Re: [GNC] new v3.0 install Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

[John Ralls]

Turn on “compress files” in the general tab of Preferences.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On May 7, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Dennis Powless  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I converted it.  Only thing is, the old file was zipped and the 
> converted one is not.  
> 
> Dennis
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 7, 2018, at 6:06 PM, John Ralls  wrote:
>> 
>> Dennis,
>> 
>> The debian distributed GnuCash is compiled for SQL as well as XML, you just 
>> need to install the appropriate additional package(s), usually libdbi, 
>> libdbi-drivers, and mysql-client, pgsql-client, or sqlite3.
>> 
>> For building you need to have one SQL backend installed so that the tests 
>> work. SQLite3 requires the least futzing so if your need is only for passing 
>> the tests--or even just to get it to build if you don’t care about the 
>> tests--that’s the one to use.
>> 
>> Yes, you should convert your book to XML.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Dennis Powless  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have no idea 
>>> 
>>> If I install gnucash from the official repositories ie apt get install 
>>> gnucash, would a database be included in that installation?
>>> 
>>> It seemed in order to do the build I needed a database backend. So I chose 
>>> that one.  
>>> 
>>> Otherwise from just a general user I don’t use a database with gnucash 
>>> however if there is a database running on the backend that I don’t 
>>> specifically interact with then I’m not sure which to use. 
>>> 
>>> Certainly, the build instructions stated to choose one of the three, if 
>>> there is a big issue with choosing the wrong one or the right one maybe 
>>> that should be specified in those directions?
>>> 
>>> So, should I convert it to xml?
>>> 
>>> Again, I thank you guys for all the help, very much appreciated!!!
>>> 
>>> Dennis
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 7, 2018, at 11:48 AM, John Ralls  wrote:
 
 
 
> On May 7, 2018, at 7:50 AM, Dennis Powless  wrote:
> 
> Ok, so I re-read the instruction from David
> 
> I followed the directions from this page
> https://tutorialforlinux.com/2018/03/13/how-to-create-menu-launcher-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-lts/
> 
> And was able to get a menu item.
> 
> I was able to run Gnucash 3.1
> 
> It opened my file, seems to be working fine!!!
> 
> Thank you ALL for the help!!!
> 
> 
> I used the MySQL database, not sure if that was right or not.  No, idea
> what I used on the previous install.
> 
 
 Unless you really know what you’re doing MySQL is not what you want. You 
 can easily convert it using File>Save As... to the default XML. Unless 
 your computer has a tendency to crash a lot this is the safest option; if 
 it does crash a lot SQLite3 combined with a good automatic backup system 
 is safest. MySQL and Postgresql are suitable only for folks with 
 experience running, administering,  and especially backing up those 
 servers.
 
 Regards,
 John Ralls
>> 

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Re: [GNC] Handling VISA Debit Accounts

[Karen Stingel]

   I suppose the Account(s) would be most like case #2, they are
   individual Bank Accounts, with own Statements, and VISA enabled card as
   opposed to the old ATM card for withdrawing funds, no cheques - it was
   more or less the VISA bit that threw me

   On 2018-05-08 09:27, Mike or Penny Novack
   '[1]stepbystepf...@dialup4less.com' via 33Mail wrote:

 On 5/7/2018 10:53 AM, Karen Stingel wrote:

 Thanks everyone for the responses, that things cleared up a lot
 The reason for my original Query is that my bank actually calls
 these transaction accounts
 "VISA Debit" and I wasn't sure where in the Tree they should go, as
 VISA is usually a Credit
 account and therefore a Liability.
 Since I viewed them as regular Bank accounts (not all have their
 cards issued at this time),
 I have created them as BANK accounts, but I wanted to check that was
 the correct place in
 the CoA before starting a new Book.

 We could be of much more help (advice how to handle) if you were
 able to describe for us what you are talking about. There are
 different types (oh dear, that word again) of "debit cards". Here
 are some possibilities.
 1) You have a checking account. In addition to being able to write
 checks against this account you also have been issued a debit card
 against this account. This allows you to use the card for purchases
 that would otherwise require a credit card. The TOTAL limit on your
 card is the "funds available" in the account just like with checks
 but there may be a transaction size limit and a daily limit.
 Method -- no additional account involved. Treat transactions
 involving the card just as it they were checks except you probably
 lack a check number for them.
 2) Like "1" except you have no checks.
 Method -- handle like "1"
 3) Like "1" except not your bank account but a virtual account.
 Every month some agency adds an amount to your card balance. EBT
 cards, for example.
  Method -- I'd create an asset account for this even though it
 isn't really "mine" in the normal sense.
 4) Gift cards, pre-paid debit cards, refund cards, etc.  These might
 be restricted to a particular vendor.
  Method --- I'd create a "type" of asset for these as long as
 this is understood as simple a parent under assets in the CoA. I'd
 probably put pre-paid debit cards under current assets but might
 want to think hard about how to treat ones that were restricted as
 to use.
 Something else? Describe.
 Michael
  Method --

References

   1. mailto:stepbystepf...@dialup4less.com
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Re: [GNC] Handling VISA Debit Accounts

[randix]

Did VISA debit cards do somethin' to you as a child, why are you pickin' on
them (that reply is to no one in particular, only the thread, so pleeze, no
one get defensive)?

A debit card [to me] is a non-existent entity, it has no business having its
own "account".

My schwab checking account has a VISA debit card (yippee, so
impressive...)... if i use it to buy a hamburger at Steve's Burgers, I enter
it in the schwab checking account as "Steve's Burgers", I think that
deserves a "duh"...

If I use the debit card for ATM withdrawals, I call it ATM-23, ATM-42.50,
ATM-43, ATM-203, etc., regardless what ATM machine I decide to hug.  My
gnucash entry automatically enters the atm charge into an expense account
for atm charges, and pushes the remaining bucks into my cash account (which
IS deserving of it's own account).  After years of doing this, I have every
combination covered.  So ATM-23 means $3 bank charge and $20 debited from my
checking and pushed into my "cash" account.

Course Schwab reimburses me for all ATM charges at the end of each month, so
that acts as a credit to my expense account for bank atm charges...

Works great.  As much as I luv my debit card, sorry, debit card, you don't
deserve your own place... :) Now if you had brunette hair, about 5' 7"
and we'd talk.



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Re: [GNC] new v3.0 install Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

[Dennis Powless]

Yes, I converted it.  Only thing is, the old file was zipped and the converted 
one is not.  

Dennis

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 7, 2018, at 6:06 PM, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> Dennis,
> 
> The debian distributed GnuCash is compiled for SQL as well as XML, you just 
> need to install the appropriate additional package(s), usually libdbi, 
> libdbi-drivers, and mysql-client, pgsql-client, or sqlite3.
> 
> For building you need to have one SQL backend installed so that the tests 
> work. SQLite3 requires the least futzing so if your need is only for passing 
> the tests--or even just to get it to build if you don’t care about the 
> tests--that’s the one to use.
> 
> Yes, you should convert your book to XML.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
>> On May 7, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Dennis Powless  wrote:
>> 
>> I have no idea 
>> 
>> If I install gnucash from the official repositories ie apt get install 
>> gnucash, would a database be included in that installation?
>> 
>> It seemed in order to do the build I needed a database backend. So I chose 
>> that one.  
>> 
>> Otherwise from just a general user I don’t use a database with gnucash 
>> however if there is a database running on the backend that I don’t 
>> specifically interact with then I’m not sure which to use. 
>> 
>> Certainly, the build instructions stated to choose one of the three, if 
>> there is a big issue with choosing the wrong one or the right one maybe that 
>> should be specified in those directions?
>> 
>> So, should I convert it to xml?
>> 
>> Again, I thank you guys for all the help, very much appreciated!!!
>> 
>> Dennis
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2018, at 11:48 AM, John Ralls  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 7, 2018, at 7:50 AM, Dennis Powless  wrote:
 
 Ok, so I re-read the instruction from David
 
 I followed the directions from this page
 https://tutorialforlinux.com/2018/03/13/how-to-create-menu-launcher-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-lts/
 
 And was able to get a menu item.
 
 I was able to run Gnucash 3.1
 
 It opened my file, seems to be working fine!!!
 
 Thank you ALL for the help!!!
 
 
 I used the MySQL database, not sure if that was right or not.  No, idea
 what I used on the previous install.
 
>>> 
>>> Unless you really know what you’re doing MySQL is not what you want. You 
>>> can easily convert it using File>Save As... to the default XML. Unless your 
>>> computer has a tendency to crash a lot this is the safest option; if it 
>>> does crash a lot SQLite3 combined with a good automatic backup system is 
>>> safest. MySQL and Postgresql are suitable only for folks with experience 
>>> running, administering,  and especially backing up those servers.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ralls
> 
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Re: [GNC] Handling VISA Debit Accounts

[Mike or Penny Novack]

On 5/7/2018 10:36 AM, John Ralls wrote:



On May 7, 2018, at 6:37 AM, Mike or Penny Novack 
 wrote:
HOWEVER -- you have raised a more general question, perhaps misunderstanding something. 
The "built in default" accounts that come with gnucash CoA skeletons are just 
for convenience satisfying the needs of many new users. There is nothing magic about the 
types of accounts included, either that they would be necessary or sufficient. If you 
find you need another category of asset accounts (another sub tree under assets) simply 
add that. Same with liabilities and equity (and thus for income and expense).

That’s not quite right. The account *types* are hard coded and control program 
behavior: For example, types STOCK and FUND have a different register display 
from the rest. There is neither UI nor API for adding types.

Regards,
John Ralls



Misunderstanding. The term "type" being used to mean different things.

The original question was using "type" in the sense I was answering the 
question. Things like "gift cards", "pre-paid debit cards, bank account 
associated debit cards, etc. are not "types" in the sense you mean 
(STOCK, FUND, etc.)


Assets of type (sense 1) stock, fund, etc. not the same thing as 
accounts of type (sense2) STOCK, FUND. << one could keep books under 
gnucash involving assets of type (sense1) stocks ad funds without using 
the built in (sense2) types. though it might help doing that to have 
learned bookkeeping in the old pen and ink on paper days >>


Michael D Novack

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Re: [GNC] new v3.0 install Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

[John Ralls]

Dennis,

The debian distributed GnuCash is compiled for SQL as well as XML, you just 
need to install the appropriate additional package(s), usually libdbi, 
libdbi-drivers, and mysql-client, pgsql-client, or sqlite3.

For building you need to have one SQL backend installed so that the tests work. 
SQLite3 requires the least futzing so if your need is only for passing the 
tests--or even just to get it to build if you don’t care about the 
tests--that’s the one to use.

Yes, you should convert your book to XML.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On May 7, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Dennis Powless  wrote:
> 
> I have no idea 
> 
> If I install gnucash from the official repositories ie apt get install 
> gnucash, would a database be included in that installation?
> 
> It seemed in order to do the build I needed a database backend. So I chose 
> that one.  
> 
> Otherwise from just a general user I don’t use a database with gnucash 
> however if there is a database running on the backend that I don’t 
> specifically interact with then I’m not sure which to use. 
> 
> Certainly, the build instructions stated to choose one of the three, if there 
> is a big issue with choosing the wrong one or the right one maybe that should 
> be specified in those directions?
> 
> So, should I convert it to xml?
> 
> Again, I thank you guys for all the help, very much appreciated!!!
> 
> Dennis
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 7, 2018, at 11:48 AM, John Ralls  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2018, at 7:50 AM, Dennis Powless  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, so I re-read the instruction from David
>>> 
>>> I followed the directions from this page
>>> https://tutorialforlinux.com/2018/03/13/how-to-create-menu-launcher-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-lts/
>>> 
>>> And was able to get a menu item.
>>> 
>>> I was able to run Gnucash 3.1
>>> 
>>> It opened my file, seems to be working fine!!!
>>> 
>>> Thank you ALL for the help!!!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I used the MySQL database, not sure if that was right or not.  No, idea
>>> what I used on the previous install.
>>> 
>> 
>> Unless you really know what you’re doing MySQL is not what you want. You can 
>> easily convert it using File>Save As... to the default XML. Unless your 
>> computer has a tendency to crash a lot this is the safest option; if it does 
>> crash a lot SQLite3 combined with a good automatic backup system is safest. 
>> MySQL and Postgresql are suitable only for folks with experience running, 
>> administering,  and especially backing up those servers.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] more UI issues

[Ed Love]

Thanks so much, I'll upgrade as soon as I can! In future, I'll check to see
if there's a new version before I post here.

On Mon, 7 May 2018, 23:08 Geert Janssens  wrote:

> Op maandag 7 mei 2018 11:04:38 CEST schreef Ed:
> > Gday again, the new version is proving challenging.
> >
> > 1 - when I reconcile, the two windows are now modal. i.e. one obscures
> > the other. This makes it hard to change xactions on the go. Before, I
> > could just select the original window easily, without the reconcile
> > window coming to the front, and covering it.
> >
> Fixed in 3.1.
>
> > 2 - in the reconcile window, a scrollbar shows up on the right hand
> > side, meaning the checkbox is tiny, so often I scroll by mistake, which
> > is rather annoying. This never happened in the past, and I'm not sure
> why.
> >
> Fixed in 3.1
>
> The scrollbar issue is new because of the new way scrollbars are handled
> in
> gtk3. We have rearranged the columns in the reconcile window such that the
> checkbox is now in the first column. The scrollbar will now only obscure
> part
> of the price when it gets activated. This is however not a column you need
> to
> click in.
>
> Regards,
>
> Geert
>
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Problem with Saved Reports

[Adrien Monteleone]

David,

When I was looking at my version of the file, I too considered those GUIDs. You 
might be on to something. I would think it possible to parse the datafile for 
those ids and see if they still exist and what they point to. I’m thinking of a 
script that checks the ids in the saved-report file against the datafile, 
listing those it finds along with the item they point to and flagging those it 
doesn’t find. Of course this script would need to take different approaches for 
XML vs. SQL.

I guess a way to test the GUID theory before any script writing is:

* create some dummy accounts
* create one or more saved report configs using those accounts
* delete one or more dummy accounts
* close & reopen GnuCash
* check the saved-reports list to see if that test report is still there.

I would think GnuCash does something like set up a foreign key pointing to the 
old GUID when it deletes an account, but perhaps not. It also may or may not 
alter your saved-report file accordingly. (if not, that would explain it I 
think) I haven’t browsed that code yet but it might give some clues.

I have my doubts though because I’m sure many accounts from many users have 
been deleted over time (myself included) and unless there is something several 
years back in the mailman archives, I haven’t heard of this problem. (not to 
say it hasn’t happened and simply not reported)

But... Looking at Bugzilla, I see this report: 
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=691910 where David Carlson mentions 
an idea to set a dirty bit to flag changes in the CoA to better handle reports 
left open in tabs. This tells me that if changing the CoA with an open report 
can be a problem, it might be a problem for saved configs as well. While the 
bug is still open, it is for the 2.4.x series and so might not be relevant 
anymore. I don’t see any other info.

I don’t know of any report ‘Check & Repair’ function or if the included Check & 
Repair works on reports as well. Again, that’s for a dev or code browse to 
answer. I can’t get to it at the moment, but if you haven’t received a more 
definitive answer by later this evening, I’ll take a look see. (I’ll probably 
browse the code just out of curiosity anyway)

Regards,
Adrien



> On May 7, 2018, at 12:10 PM, D  wrote:
> 
> Adrien,
> 
> Thanks for the reply. I already looked at the files.
> 
> This has happened twice, once about a year and a half ago, and once last 
> week. When it happened first, I assumed a glitch in my machine, and focused 
> on recovery. This is incident number two. So, there's no opportunity to 
> discern any patterns. 
> 
> I didn't see anything particular in the files to suggest a reason for the 
> truncation. The file seemed to end at a report boundary (although I am not a 
> Scheme programmer). 
> 
> I note that the last line with data on it was line 666, so maybe it's just 
> possessed by the devil. 
> 
> The original file is 181,670 bytes; the truncated file is 42,379 bytes. 
> 
> I see that most report entries in my file include the comment "based on 
> template " , and I wonder whether these reports become unstable if the 
> report upon which they are based gets deleted.
> 
> Another thing that I see is that many reports include account guids, and I am 
> not sure whether these reports become unstable when an account gets deleted, 
> thus leaving an invalid guid in the report. Perhaps Gnucash has a report 
> clean up function that it performs sporadically?
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> On May 7, 2018, at 9:17 PM, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> 
> David,
> 
> Without having a more specific answer, does this truncation by chance happen 
> at the same place in the report list every time? (indicating there might be a 
> problem at a certain place in the file, namely, with the description of a 
> single report)
> 
> It is a plain text file that looks fairly straightforward in its description, 
> so even without a roadmap for the syntax, you could peek at it and see if any 
> report doesn’t seem to conform to the norm or if there is errant text there.
> 
> Just a thought unless/until you get a more definitive answer.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On May 7, 2018, at 8:06 AM, David T. via gnucash-user 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I have encountered now a couple of times the unpleasant experience of 
>> calling up my saved reports configurations, only to find all but 5 or 7 
>> completely gone. When I examine the saved-reports-2.4 file stored on my hard 
>> drive, it has been reduced in size to about 30k. This has happened now on 
>> two completely different occasions, separated by months. Thankfully, I have 
>> been able to go to backups and locate the original 180k saved-reports-2.4, 
>> and my reports are back where they should be.
>> 
>> For the record, there have been no other indications of trouble (i.e., no 
>> frozen instances of GnuCash, no crashes), and I have not undertaken any 

Re: [GNC] new v3.0 install Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

[Dennis Powless]

I have no idea 

If I install gnucash from the official repositories ie apt get install gnucash, 
would a database be included in that installation?

It seemed in order to do the build I needed a database backend. So I chose that 
one.  

Otherwise from just a general user I don’t use a database with gnucash however 
if there is a database running on the backend that I don’t specifically 
interact with then I’m not sure which to use. 

Certainly, the build instructions stated to choose one of the three, if there 
is a big issue with choosing the wrong one or the right one maybe that should 
be specified in those directions?

So, should I convert it to xml?

Again, I thank you guys for all the help, very much appreciated!!!

Dennis

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 7, 2018, at 11:48 AM, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 7, 2018, at 7:50 AM, Dennis Powless  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, so I re-read the instruction from David
>> 
>> I followed the directions from this page
>> https://tutorialforlinux.com/2018/03/13/how-to-create-menu-launcher-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-lts/
>> 
>> And was able to get a menu item.
>> 
>> I was able to run Gnucash 3.1
>> 
>> It opened my file, seems to be working fine!!!
>> 
>> Thank you ALL for the help!!!
>> 
>> 
>> I used the MySQL database, not sure if that was right or not.  No, idea
>> what I used on the previous install.
>> 
> 
> Unless you really know what you’re doing MySQL is not what you want. You can 
> easily convert it using File>Save As... to the default XML. Unless your 
> computer has a tendency to crash a lot this is the safest option; if it does 
> crash a lot SQLite3 combined with a good automatic backup system is safest. 
> MySQL and Postgresql are suitable only for folks with experience running, 
> administering,  and especially backing up those servers.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] Problem with Saved Reports

[D via gnucash-user]

Adrien,

Thanks for the reply. I already looked at the files.

This has happened twice, once about a year and a half ago, and once last week. 
When it happened first, I assumed a glitch in my machine, and focused on 
recovery. This is incident number two. So, there's no opportunity to discern 
any patterns. 

I didn't see anything particular in the files to suggest a reason for the 
truncation. The file seemed to end at a report boundary (although I am not a 
Scheme programmer). 

I note that the last line with data on it was line 666, so maybe it's just 
possessed by the devil. 

The original file is 181,670 bytes; the truncated file is 42,379 bytes. 

I see that most report entries in my file include the comment "based on 
template " , and I wonder whether these reports become unstable if the 
report upon which they are based gets deleted.

Another thing that I see is that many reports include account guids, and I am 
not sure whether these reports become unstable when an account gets deleted, 
thus leaving an invalid guid in the report. Perhaps Gnucash has a report clean 
up function that it performs sporadically?

David



On May 7, 2018, at 9:17 PM, Adrien Monteleone  
wrote:

David,

Without having a more specific answer, does this truncation by chance happen at 
the same place in the report list every time? (indicating there might be a 
problem at a certain place in the file, namely, with the description of a 
single report)

It is a plain text file that looks fairly straightforward in its description, 
so even without a roadmap for the syntax, you could peek at it and see if any 
report doesn’t seem to conform to the norm or if there is errant text there.

Just a thought unless/until you get a more definitive answer.

Regards,
Adrien

> On May 7, 2018, at 8:06 AM, David T. via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have encountered now a couple of times the unpleasant experience of calling 
> up my saved reports configurations, only to find all but 5 or 7 completely 
> gone. When I examine the saved-reports-2.4 file stored on my hard drive, it 
> has been reduced in size to about 30k. This has happened now on two 
> completely different occasions, separated by months. Thankfully, I have been 
> able to go to backups and locate the original 180k saved-reports-2.4, and my 
> reports are back where they should be.
> 
> For the record, there have been no other indications of trouble (i.e., no 
> frozen instances of GnuCash, no crashes), and I have not undertaken any major 
> operations (loading of huge numbers of transactions, closing books, etc.). 
> Just, one day, the reports are there, the next, they’re not.
> 
> The fact that this has now happened more than once suggests a serious problem 
> (most likely with something stupid I have done) with my saved reports file, 
> and I would like to ask whether there is any sort of utility (like Check and 
> Repair) that I can run on the saved reports to determine what might be 
> causing this file to auto-truncate itself. Assuming that there isn’t, does 
> anyone have any suggestions on what I might look for that could cause this 
> behavior? It’s really disturbing to open up GnuCash, and discover that my 
> reports have been simply disappeared.
> 
> TIA,
> David T.
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Re: [GNC] new v3.0 install Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

[John Ralls]

> On May 7, 2018, at 7:50 AM, Dennis Powless  wrote:
> 
> Ok, so I re-read the instruction from David
> 
> I followed the directions from this page
> https://tutorialforlinux.com/2018/03/13/how-to-create-menu-launcher-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-lts/
> 
> And was able to get a menu item.
> 
> I was able to run Gnucash 3.1
> 
> It opened my file, seems to be working fine!!!
> 
> Thank you ALL for the help!!!
> 
> 
> I used the MySQL database, not sure if that was right or not.  No, idea
> what I used on the previous install.
> 

Unless you really know what you’re doing MySQL is not what you want. You can 
easily convert it using File>Save As... to the default XML. Unless your 
computer has a tendency to crash a lot this is the safest option; if it does 
crash a lot SQLite3 combined with a good automatic backup system is safest. 
MySQL and Postgresql are suitable only for folks with experience running, 
administering,  and especially backing up those servers.

Regards,
John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] Handling VISA Debit Accounts

[Karen Stingel]

Thanks everyone for the responses, that things cleared up a lot

The reason for my original Query is that my bank actually calls these 
transaction accounts
"VISA Debit" and I wasn't sure where in the Tree they should go, as VISA 
is usually a Credit

account and therefore a Liability.

Since I viewed them as regular Bank accounts (not all have their cards 
issued at this time),
I have created them as BANK accounts, but I wanted to check that was the 
correct place in

the CoA before starting a new Book.


On 2018-05-08 00:32, David Carlson 'david.carlson@gmail.com' via 
33Mail wrote:


On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 1:32 AM, Karen Stingel > wrote:


   How does gnc handle the Case of a VISA Debit card?
   Technically, this is a BANK account with a VISA enabled card and a
   $0.00 Credit Limit
   Should it just be created as a normal BANK account type?
   Are there any plans to include this as a new Asset Account type in
   future editions of gnc?
   Are Python Bindings enabled in the Windows binaries, and could this
   Account type be added via writing a Python script?
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Karen,

I do not give my debit card an account because I just use it as a 
plastic checkbook on my checking account.  Thus I just enter a 
transaction from the checking account, using a keyword 'Debit' in the 
check number box.


David C


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Re: [GNC] new v3.0 install Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

[Dennis Powless]

Ok, so I re-read the instruction from David

I followed the directions from this page
https://tutorialforlinux.com/2018/03/13/how-to-create-menu-launcher-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-lts/

And was able to get a menu item.

I was able to run Gnucash 3.1

It opened my file, seems to be working fine!!!

Thank you ALL for the help!!!


I used the MySQL database, not sure if that was right or not.  No, idea
what I used on the previous install.


Dennis

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 10:19 AM, Dennis Powless  wrote:

> I noticed that also, I was able to install those. except the OFX
> files, libofx6, libofx4.  I was able to install libofx-dev however.
>
> cmake -DWITH_AQBANKING=OFF -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/dennis/.local
> /home/dennis/Applications/gnucash-3.1
>
> It ran
>
> Then I did the make then make install.
>
> No errors
>
>
>
> Now what do I do.
>
> I don't see it on the list of applications, terminal says I need to
> install gnucash
>
>
>
> Dennis
>
> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Geert Janssens  > wrote:
>
>> Op maandag 7 mei 2018 15:29:07 CEST schreef Dennis Powless:
>> > So, I got errors.
>> >
>> > -- Checking for module 'gwenhywfar'
>> > --   No package 'gwenhywfar' found
>> > CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-3.10/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:415
>> > (message):
>> >   A required package was not found
>> > Call Stack (most recent call first):
>> >   /usr/share/cmake-3.10/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:593
>> > (_pkg_check_modules_internal)
>> >   common/cmake_modules/GncFindPkgConfig.cmake:253 (PKG_CHECK_MODULES)
>> >   CMakeLists.txt:347 (GNC_PKG_CHECK_MODULES)
>> >
>> > -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
>> > See also "/home/dennis/Applications/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log".
>> >
>> >
>> > So, I see I was missing "gwenhywfar"  So, I then searched and found it.
>> > ran
>> >
>> > dennis@dennis-HP-Pavilion-Laptop-15-cc0xx:~/Applications$ sudo apt-get
>> > update
>> > dennis@dennis-HP-Pavilion-Laptop-15-cc0xx:~/Applications$ sudo apt-get
>> > install gwenhywfar-tools
>> > Reading package lists... Done
>> > Building dependency tree
>> > Reading state information... Done
>> > The following NEW packages will be installed:
>> >   gwenhywfar-tools
>> > 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
>> > Need to get 119 kB of archives.
>> > After this operation, 446 kB of additional disk space will be used.
>> > Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/universe amd64
>> > gwenhywfar-tools amd64 4.20.0-1 [119 kB]
>> > Fetched 119 kB in 0s (462 kB/s)
>> > Selecting previously unselected package gwenhywfar-tools.
>> > (Reading database ... 164056 files and directories currently installed.)
>> > Preparing to unpack .../gwenhywfar-tools_4.20.0-1_amd64.deb ...
>> > Unpacking gwenhywfar-tools (4.20.0-1) ...
>> > Setting up gwenhywfar-tools (4.20.0-1) ...
>> > Processing triggers for man-db (2.8.3-2) ...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > After that, I then did the -DCMAKE command line as above, still same
>> error.
>> >
>> > I'm not sure how to get that package.  I have NO plans to use aqbanking
>> and
>> > thought that dependency was optional.  I do use OFX import all the time.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > *OFX File importing*
>> >
>> > sudo apt-get install libofx6 libofx4 libofx-dev
>> >
>> > *AqBanking*
>> >
>> > sudo apt-get aqbanking-tools libaqbanking-dev   # > v4.0.0
>> > sudo apt-get gwenhywfar-tools libgwenhywfar60 libgwenhywfar60-dev
>> > sudo apt-get ktoblzcheck libktoblzcheck1-dev
>> >
>> These commands are missing the "Install" parameter compared to the
>> apt-get
>> invocation for OFX.
>>
>> If you change
>> sudo apt-get 
>> info
>> sudo apt-get install 
>>
>> the proper dependencies will be installed. I have updated the wiki page
>> to
>> reflect the exact commands.
>>
>> Alternatively if you don't want to build with aqbanking support you can
>> also
>> add
>> -DWITH_AQBANKING=OFF
>> to your cmake command line options.
>>
>> If you do that you don't have to install the aqbanking dependencies at
>> all.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Geert
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [GNC] Handling VISA Debit Accounts

[John Ralls]

> On May 7, 2018, at 6:37 AM, Mike or Penny Novack 
>  wrote:
> HOWEVER -- you have raised a more general question, perhaps misunderstanding 
> something. The "built in default" accounts that come with gnucash CoA 
> skeletons are just for convenience satisfying the needs of many new users. 
> There is nothing magic about the types of accounts included, either that they 
> would be necessary or sufficient. If you find you need another category of 
> asset accounts (another sub tree under assets) simply add that. Same with 
> liabilities and equity (and thus for income and expense).

That’s not quite right. The account *types* are hard coded and control program 
behavior: For example, types STOCK and FUND have a different register display 
from the rest. There is neither UI nor API for adding types.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] VISA Debit Card was gnucash-user Digest, Vol 182, Issue 8

[David Carlson]

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 1:32 AM, Karen Stingel 
wrote:

>How does gnc handle the Case of a VISA Debit card?
>Technically, this is a BANK account with a VISA enabled card and a
>$0.00 Credit Limit
>Should it just be created as a normal BANK account type?
>Are there any plans to include this as a new Asset Account type in
>future editions of gnc?
>Are Python Bindings enabled in the Windows binaries, and could this
>Account type be added via writing a Python script?
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Karen,

I do not give my debit card an account because I just use it as a plastic
checkbook on my checking account.  Thus I just enter a transaction from the
checking account, using a keyword 'Debit' in the check number box.

David C
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 182, Issue 8

[John Ralls]

> On May 6, 2018, at 11:32 PM, Karen Stingel  wrote:
> 
>   How does gnc handle the Case of a VISA Debit card?
>   Technically, this is a BANK account with a VISA enabled card and a
>   $0.00 Credit Limit
>   Should it just be created as a normal BANK account type?
>   Are there any plans to include this as a new Asset Account type in
>   future editions of gnc?
>   Are Python Bindings enabled in the Windows binaries, and could this
>   Account type be added via writing a Python script?

Yes, it’s a bank account. The debit card is just a way of accessing it. No, 
it’s not new: I got my first ATM card in 1976 when Visa was still a division of 
the Bank of America called “Bankamericard". It’s also not a separate account 
type, it’s just a plain old checking account--even though you may never write a 
paper check on it. The $50 credit limit is just “overdraft protection” under a 
different name.

The python bindings are not enabled in the Windows or Mac all-in-one packages 
that we distribute because they must be linked with the same python library 
that the python interpreter running the program is so we’d have to include a 
complete python distribution in the package. They’re already too fat thanks to 
WebKit. In any case, you can’t add account types from the bindings, they’re 
hard-coded in libgnucash/engine/Account.cpp.

Regards,
John Ralls


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Re: [GNC] new v3.0 install Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

[Dennis Powless]

I noticed that also, I was able to install those. except the OFX files,
libofx6, libofx4.  I was able to install libofx-dev however.

cmake -DWITH_AQBANKING=OFF -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/dennis/.local
/home/dennis/Applications/gnucash-3.1

It ran

Then I did the make then make install.

No errors



Now what do I do.

I don't see it on the list of applications, terminal says I need to install
gnucash



Dennis

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Geert Janssens 
wrote:

> Op maandag 7 mei 2018 15:29:07 CEST schreef Dennis Powless:
> > So, I got errors.
> >
> > -- Checking for module 'gwenhywfar'
> > --   No package 'gwenhywfar' found
> > CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-3.10/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:415
> > (message):
> >   A required package was not found
> > Call Stack (most recent call first):
> >   /usr/share/cmake-3.10/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:593
> > (_pkg_check_modules_internal)
> >   common/cmake_modules/GncFindPkgConfig.cmake:253 (PKG_CHECK_MODULES)
> >   CMakeLists.txt:347 (GNC_PKG_CHECK_MODULES)
> >
> > -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
> > See also "/home/dennis/Applications/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log".
> >
> >
> > So, I see I was missing "gwenhywfar"  So, I then searched and found it.
> > ran
> >
> > dennis@dennis-HP-Pavilion-Laptop-15-cc0xx:~/Applications$ sudo apt-get
> > update
> > dennis@dennis-HP-Pavilion-Laptop-15-cc0xx:~/Applications$ sudo apt-get
> > install gwenhywfar-tools
> > Reading package lists... Done
> > Building dependency tree
> > Reading state information... Done
> > The following NEW packages will be installed:
> >   gwenhywfar-tools
> > 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> > Need to get 119 kB of archives.
> > After this operation, 446 kB of additional disk space will be used.
> > Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/universe amd64
> > gwenhywfar-tools amd64 4.20.0-1 [119 kB]
> > Fetched 119 kB in 0s (462 kB/s)
> > Selecting previously unselected package gwenhywfar-tools.
> > (Reading database ... 164056 files and directories currently installed.)
> > Preparing to unpack .../gwenhywfar-tools_4.20.0-1_amd64.deb ...
> > Unpacking gwenhywfar-tools (4.20.0-1) ...
> > Setting up gwenhywfar-tools (4.20.0-1) ...
> > Processing triggers for man-db (2.8.3-2) ...
> >
> >
> >
> > After that, I then did the -DCMAKE command line as above, still same
> error.
> >
> > I'm not sure how to get that package.  I have NO plans to use aqbanking
> and
> > thought that dependency was optional.  I do use OFX import all the time.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *OFX File importing*
> >
> > sudo apt-get install libofx6 libofx4 libofx-dev
> >
> > *AqBanking*
> >
> > sudo apt-get aqbanking-tools libaqbanking-dev   # > v4.0.0
> > sudo apt-get gwenhywfar-tools libgwenhywfar60 libgwenhywfar60-dev
> > sudo apt-get ktoblzcheck libktoblzcheck1-dev
> >
> These commands are missing the "Install" parameter compared to the apt-get
> invocation for OFX.
>
> If you change
> sudo apt-get 
> info
> sudo apt-get install 
>
> the proper dependencies will be installed. I have updated the wiki page to
> reflect the exact commands.
>
> Alternatively if you don't want to build with aqbanking support you can
> also
> add
> -DWITH_AQBANKING=OFF
> to your cmake command line options.
>
> If you do that you don't have to install the aqbanking dependencies at all.
>
> Regards,
>
> Geert
>
>
>
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Re: [GNC] new v3.0 install Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

[Geert Janssens]

Op maandag 7 mei 2018 15:29:07 CEST schreef Dennis Powless:
> So, I got errors.
> 
> -- Checking for module 'gwenhywfar'
> --   No package 'gwenhywfar' found
> CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-3.10/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:415
> (message):
>   A required package was not found
> Call Stack (most recent call first):
>   /usr/share/cmake-3.10/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:593
> (_pkg_check_modules_internal)
>   common/cmake_modules/GncFindPkgConfig.cmake:253 (PKG_CHECK_MODULES)
>   CMakeLists.txt:347 (GNC_PKG_CHECK_MODULES)
> 
> -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
> See also "/home/dennis/Applications/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log".
> 
> 
> So, I see I was missing "gwenhywfar"  So, I then searched and found it.
> ran
> 
> dennis@dennis-HP-Pavilion-Laptop-15-cc0xx:~/Applications$ sudo apt-get
> update
> dennis@dennis-HP-Pavilion-Laptop-15-cc0xx:~/Applications$ sudo apt-get
> install gwenhywfar-tools
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   gwenhywfar-tools
> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 119 kB of archives.
> After this operation, 446 kB of additional disk space will be used.
> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/universe amd64
> gwenhywfar-tools amd64 4.20.0-1 [119 kB]
> Fetched 119 kB in 0s (462 kB/s)
> Selecting previously unselected package gwenhywfar-tools.
> (Reading database ... 164056 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to unpack .../gwenhywfar-tools_4.20.0-1_amd64.deb ...
> Unpacking gwenhywfar-tools (4.20.0-1) ...
> Setting up gwenhywfar-tools (4.20.0-1) ...
> Processing triggers for man-db (2.8.3-2) ...
> 
> 
> 
> After that, I then did the -DCMAKE command line as above, still same error.
> 
> I'm not sure how to get that package.  I have NO plans to use aqbanking and
> thought that dependency was optional.  I do use OFX import all the time.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *OFX File importing*
> 
> sudo apt-get install libofx6 libofx4 libofx-dev
> 
> *AqBanking*
> 
> sudo apt-get aqbanking-tools libaqbanking-dev   # > v4.0.0
> sudo apt-get gwenhywfar-tools libgwenhywfar60 libgwenhywfar60-dev
> sudo apt-get ktoblzcheck libktoblzcheck1-dev
> 
These commands are missing the "Install" parameter compared to the apt-get 
invocation for OFX.

If you change
sudo apt-get 
info
sudo apt-get install 

the proper dependencies will be installed. I have updated the wiki page to 
reflect the exact commands.

Alternatively if you don't want to build with aqbanking support you can also 
add
-DWITH_AQBANKING=OFF
to your cmake command line options.

If you do that you don't have to install the aqbanking dependencies at all.

Regards,

Geert


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Re: [GNC] Handling VISA Debit Accounts

[Mike or Penny Novack]

On 5/7/2018 2:39 AM, Karen Stingel wrote:
This is a Fix of my previous thread ... Re: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 
182, Issue 8,

apologies for not clarifying the subject line last time.

How does gnc handle the Case of a VISA Debit card?
Technically, this is a BANK account with a VISA enabled card and a 
$0.00 Credit Limit

Should it just be created as a normal BANK account type?

Are there any plans to include this as a new Asset Account type in 
future editions of gnc?


As others have already answered, if this is just a payment card 
associated with an existing bank account (just another way of making 
withdrawals from THAT account) no account to be added. But if it is a 
separate account (with some institution) then yes. Thus you might have 
an asset account category for "gift cards", "prepaid debit cards", etc.


HOWEVER -- you have raised a more general question, perhaps 
misunderstanding something. The "built in default" accounts that come 
with gnucash CoA skeletons are just for convenience satisfying the needs 
of many new users. There is nothing magic about the types of accounts 
included, either that they would be necessary or sufficient. If you find 
you need another category of asset accounts (another sub tree under 
assets) simply add that. Same with liabilities and equity (and thus for 
income and expense).


Your CoA is YOUR CoA specific to YOUR needs.

Michael D Novack
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Re: [GNC] Handling VISA Debit Accounts

[David T. via gnucash-user]

In my experience (admittedly limited), a debit card is a means to extract funds 
from an account—not an account on its own. Considered this way, it is simply a 
variant of a check, or of writing a withdrawal slip and handing it over to a 
teller (for those who remember those days). There is no need for a separate 
account type; “Bank” or “Asset” suffice. 

Rick’s method will certainly work, although I have never bothered with that 
level of detail.

David T.

> On May 7, 2018, at 1:01 PM, Rick Copple  
> wrote:
> 
> On 05/07/2018 01:39 AM, Karen Stingel wrote:
>> How does gnc handle the Case of a VISA Debit card?
>> Technically, this is a BANK account with a VISA enabled card and a $0.00 
>> Credit Limit
>> Should it just be created as a normal BANK account type? 
> 
> How I normally handle mine is any transaction I make from my debit card, I 
> enter as a transaction in my bank account, usually using the word "Debit" for 
> the ref. number field. Of course, you could use any code word there you 
> wanted (ex. "Visa", "MC", "CCard", etc.) as long as you are consistent in 
> using the same term. But there is no reason to complicate things by creating 
> this as a separate bank account from the one your funds come out of. As to 
> the rest, I'll let the developers answer those, though I don't see the point 
> in not using the create a new account function in GNUCash itself to create 
> any new accounts you need, or to create a specialized function for handling 
> debit cards.
> 
> -- 
> Rick Copple
> Window Cleaning Specialist
> 
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Re: [GNC] new v3.0 install Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

[Dennis Powless]

So, I got errors.

dennis@dennis-HP-Pavilion-Laptop-15-cc0xx:~/Applications$ cmake
-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/dennis/.local
/home/dennis/Applications/gnucash-3.1
-- The C compiler identification is GNU 7.3.0
-- The CXX compiler identification is GNU 7.3.0
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/cc
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/cc -- works
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info - done
-- Detecting C compile features
-- Detecting C compile features - done
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++ -- works
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info - done
-- Detecting CXX compile features
-- Detecting CXX compile features - done
-- Found PkgConfig: /usr/bin/pkg-config (found version "0.29.1")
-- Checking for module 'glib-2.0>=2.40'
--   Found glib-2.0, version 2.56.1
-- Checking for module 'gio-2.0'
--   Found gio-2.0, version 2.56.1
-- Checking for module 'gobject-2.0>=2.20'
--   Found gobject-2.0, version 2.56.1
-- Checking for module 'gmodule-2.0>=2.20'
--   Found gmodule-2.0, version 2.56.1
-- Checking for module 'gthread-2.0>=2.20'
--   Found gthread-2.0, version 2.56.1
-- Checking for module 'libxml-2.0>=2.7.0'
--   Found libxml-2.0, version 2.9.4
-- Checking for module 'libxslt'
--   Found libxslt, version 1.1.29
-- Checking for module 'webkit2gtk-4.0'
--   Found webkit2gtk-4.0, version 2.20.1
-- Checking for module 'gtk+-3.0>=3.10.0'
--   Found gtk+-3.0, version 3.22.30
-- Checking for module 'zlib'
--   Found zlib, version 1.2.11
-- Found Gettext: /usr/bin/msgmerge (found suitable version "0.19.8.1",
minimum required is "0.19.6")
-- Using guile-2.0.x
-- Using guile SRFI-64
-- Checking for module 'gwenhywfar'
--   No package 'gwenhywfar' found
CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-3.10/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:415
(message):
  A required package was not found
Call Stack (most recent call first):
  /usr/share/cmake-3.10/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:593
(_pkg_check_modules_internal)
  common/cmake_modules/GncFindPkgConfig.cmake:253 (PKG_CHECK_MODULES)
  CMakeLists.txt:347 (GNC_PKG_CHECK_MODULES)

-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
See also "/home/dennis/Applications/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log".


So, I see I was missing "gwenhywfar"  So, I then searched and found it.
ran

dennis@dennis-HP-Pavilion-Laptop-15-cc0xx:~/Applications$ sudo apt-get
update
dennis@dennis-HP-Pavilion-Laptop-15-cc0xx:~/Applications$ sudo apt-get
install gwenhywfar-tools
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  gwenhywfar-tools
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 119 kB of archives.
After this operation, 446 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/universe amd64
gwenhywfar-tools amd64 4.20.0-1 [119 kB]
Fetched 119 kB in 0s (462 kB/s)
Selecting previously unselected package gwenhywfar-tools.
(Reading database ... 164056 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../gwenhywfar-tools_4.20.0-1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking gwenhywfar-tools (4.20.0-1) ...
Setting up gwenhywfar-tools (4.20.0-1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.8.3-2) ...



After that, I then did the -DCMAKE command line as above, still same error.

I'm not sure how to get that package.  I have NO plans to use aqbanking and
thought that dependency was optional.  I do use OFX import all the time.




*OFX File importing*

sudo apt-get install libofx6 libofx4 libofx-dev

*AqBanking*

sudo apt-get aqbanking-tools libaqbanking-dev   # > v4.0.0
sudo apt-get gwenhywfar-tools libgwenhywfar60 libgwenhywfar60-dev
sudo apt-get ktoblzcheck libktoblzcheck1-dev

dennis@dennis-HP-Pavilion-Laptop-15-cc0xx:~$ sudo apt-get install libofx6
libofx4 libofx-devReading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency tree
   Reading state information... DoneE: Unable to locate package libofx6E:
Unable to locate package libofx4

I get an error that. E: Invalid operation gwenhywfar-tools



Thanks for the help thus far

Dennis




On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 7:16 PM, DaveC49  wrote:

> Dennis,
>
> The instructions on the BuildUbuntu16.04 have now  been modified so that
> they recommend the  preferred place for the build directory is in the
> parent
> directory of the GnuCash sources as John and Geert recommended this as the
> preferred location.
>
> It can actually be anywhere you wish to put it as long, as you issue the
> cmake command from the build directory and supply the path to the
> gnucash-3.1 sources as the last entry in the cmake command.
>
> You will find some links to breakout pages which discuss positioning the
> build directory on a link from the wiki page in more detail and why it is
> preferred. Use the recommended location unless you are confident you know
> how to modify the cmake command if you do change the 

[GNC] Problem with Saved Reports

[David T. via gnucash-user]

Hello,

I have encountered now a couple of times the unpleasant experience of calling 
up my saved reports configurations, only to find all but 5 or 7 completely 
gone. When I examine the saved-reports-2.4 file stored on my hard drive, it has 
been reduced in size to about 30k. This has happened now on two completely 
different occasions, separated by months. Thankfully, I have been able to go to 
backups and locate the original 180k saved-reports-2.4, and my reports are back 
where they should be.

For the record, there have been no other indications of trouble (i.e., no 
frozen instances of GnuCash, no crashes), and I have not undertaken any major 
operations (loading of huge numbers of transactions, closing books, etc.). 
Just, one day, the reports are there, the next, they’re not.

The fact that this has now happened more than once suggests a serious problem 
(most likely with something stupid I have done) with my saved reports file, and 
I would like to ask whether there is any sort of utility (like Check and 
Repair) that I can run on the saved reports to determine what might be causing 
this file to auto-truncate itself. Assuming that there isn’t, does anyone have 
any suggestions on what I might look for that could cause this behavior? It’s 
really disturbing to open up GnuCash, and discover that my reports have been 
simply disappeared.

TIA,
David T.
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Re: [GNC] more UI issues

[Geert Janssens]

Op maandag 7 mei 2018 11:04:38 CEST schreef Ed:
> Gday again, the new version is proving challenging.
> 
> 1 - when I reconcile, the two windows are now modal. i.e. one obscures
> the other. This makes it hard to change xactions on the go. Before, I
> could just select the original window easily, without the reconcile
> window coming to the front, and covering it.
> 
Fixed in 3.1.

> 2 - in the reconcile window, a scrollbar shows up on the right hand
> side, meaning the checkbox is tiny, so often I scroll by mistake, which
> is rather annoying. This never happened in the past, and I'm not sure why.
> 
Fixed in 3.1

The scrollbar issue is new because of the new way scrollbars are handled in 
gtk3. We have rearranged the columns in the reconcile window such that the 
checkbox is now in the first column. The scrollbar will now only obscure part 
of the price when it gets activated. This is however not a column you need to 
click in.

Regards,

Geert


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Re: [GNC] new v3.0 install Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

[Geert Janssens]

Op zondag 6 mei 2018 10:22:28 CEST schreef DaveC49:
> Dennis,
> 
> The obvious place to put the build-cmake directory is in the Applications
> directory. I personally would not name it build-cmake but build-gnucash-3.1.
> The reason for that is, to uninstall Gnucash there is no need to retain the
> gnucash-3.1 source directory which can be deleted, but you will need to
> retain the build directory.
> 
> Then there is nothing to identify the build-cmake directory as the build
> directory for GnuCash if you call it build-cmake and if you subsequently
> compiled another program from the Applications directory using the same
> naming convention, you could end up with several build-cmake directories not
> knowing which programs they are for, so you would have difficulty
> uninstalling them, if you wanted to later. The name is more than likely a
> hangover from when the developers were initially testing cmake against the
> autotools configure script. They would probably have used a build-cmake and
> a build-autotools or something similar to distinguish the parallel builds.
> 
> To start the whole process you would after extracting the tarball to
> /home/dennis/Applications
> Open a shell then
> 
> cd /home/dennis/Applications
> mkdir build-gnucash-3.1
> cd build-gnucash-3.1
> "cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/dennis/.local
> /home/dennis/Applications/gnucash-3.1"
> make
> make install
> 
> Don't type the quotes in the above. They are to indicate that everything
> between the quotes goes on one line and there is a single space between
> -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/dennis/.local  and
> /home/dennis/Applications/gnucash-3.1.  Part of the confusion may be that if
> your screen resoluition is not the same as mine the wiki may be wrapping
> lines. I have three different size screens so i will check that out and try
> to find a way to ensure the cammands do appear on the one line.
> 
> That should install GnuCash 3.1 in your local directory. To run it you could
> type in a terminal:
> 
>  /home/dennis/.local/bin gnucash %f
> 
> I am not exactly sure but I think the %f causes gnucash to open with the
> last file it had open. It appears in the installed menu item for gnucash.
> 
No, you don't need to type the %f. Gnucash will open the last file when you 
don't pass any pathname to the command.

The %f is typically used in *.desktop files to pass on a filename from the 
desktop file's commandline on to gnucash itself.

When yo invoke gnucash directly this is not necessary and maybe even unwanted.

Regards,

Geert


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[GNC] more UI issues

[Ed]

Gday again, the new version is proving challenging.

1 - when I reconcile, the two windows are now modal. i.e. one obscures 
the other. This makes it hard to change xactions on the go. Before, I 
could just select the original window easily, without the reconcile 
window coming to the front, and covering it.


2 - in the reconcile window, a scrollbar shows up on the right hand 
side, meaning the checkbox is tiny, so often I scroll by mistake, which 
is rather annoying. This never happened in the past, and I'm not sure why.


Any suggestions on how to deal with these?

Thanks again,

Ed
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Re: [GNC] Handling VISA Debit Accounts

[prl]

On 7/05/2018 16:39, Karen Stingel wrote:
This is a Fix of my previous thread ... Re: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 
182, Issue 8,

apologies for not clarifying the subject line last time.

How does gnc handle the Case of a VISA Debit card?
Technically, this is a BANK account with a VISA enabled card and a 
$0.00 Credit Limit

Should it just be created as a normal BANK account type?

Are there any plans to include this as a new Asset Account type in 
future editions of gnc?

I'm not sure why you'd want anything other that a Bank Account account type.

I have a bank savings account on which I can use a VISA debit card and 
draw cheques, and it's all on one statement, so it wouldn't make sense 
to me to have a separate register for it, except, perhaps as a 
sub-account, but I think that unnecessarily complicates things.


What is arguably missing is a "Debit card" Action on the transaction, 
but I just make a note of Visa transactions in the description.


Peter
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Re: [GNC] Handling VISA Debit Accounts

[Rick Copple]

On 05/07/2018 01:39 AM, Karen Stingel wrote:

How does gnc handle the Case of a VISA Debit card?
Technically, this is a BANK account with a VISA enabled card and a 
$0.00 Credit Limit
Should it just be created as a normal BANK account type? 


How I normally handle mine is any transaction I make from my debit card, 
I enter as a transaction in my bank account, usually using the word 
"Debit" for the ref. number field. Of course, you could use any code 
word there you wanted (ex. "Visa", "MC", "CCard", etc.) as long as you 
are consistent in using the same term. But there is no reason to 
complicate things by creating this as a separate bank account from the 
one your funds come out of. As to the rest, I'll let the developers 
answer those, though I don't see the point in not using the create a new 
account function in GNUCash itself to create any new accounts you need, 
or to create a specialized function for handling debit cards.


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Re: [GNC] new v3.0 install Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

[DaveC49]

Dennis,

You are missing the third part of the cmake command when you type

cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/dennis/.local 

which is why you are getting the cmake error. 

You need to append either

../gnucash-3.1

or

/home/dennis/Applications/gnucash-3.1

on to the end of the cmake command separated by a blank when you enter it,
i.e.

cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/dennis/.local ../gnucash-3.1

The first option above is a relative path from the build-cmake directory to
the sources directory. the ".." part works like cd .. and places you in the
applications directory then the /gnucash-3.1 places you in the gnucash-3.1
directory. 

The second is an absolute location relative to the root of the filesystem.
Either of these can be interpreted by the cmake command.

David

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Re: [GNC] new v3.0 install Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

[DaveC49]

Dennis,

The obvious place to put the build-cmake directory is in the Applications
directory. I personally would not name it build-cmake but build-gnucash-3.1.
The reason for that is, to uninstall Gnucash there is no need to retain the
gnucash-3.1 source directory which can be deleted, but you will need to
retain the build directory. 

Then there is nothing to identify the build-cmake directory as the build
directory for GnuCash if you call it build-cmake and if you subsequently
compiled another program from the Applications directory using the same
naming convention, you could end up with several build-cmake directories not
knowing which programs they are for, so you would have difficulty
uninstalling them, if you wanted to later. The name is more than likely a
hangover from when the developers were initially testing cmake against the
autotools configure script. They would probably have used a build-cmake and 
a build-autotools or something similar to distinguish the parallel builds.

To start the whole process you would after extracting the tarball to
/home/dennis/Applications
Open a shell then

cd /home/dennis/Applications
mkdir build-gnucash-3.1
cd build-gnucash-3.1
"cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/dennis/.local 
/home/dennis/Applications/gnucash-3.1" 
make
make install

Don't type the quotes in the above. They are to indicate that everything
between the quotes goes on one line and there is a single space between
-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/dennis/.local  and
/home/dennis/Applications/gnucash-3.1.  Part of the confusion may be that if
your screen resoluition is not the same as mine the wiki may be wrapping
lines. I have three different size screens so i will check that out and try
to find a way to ensure the cammands do appear on the one line.

That should install GnuCash 3.1 in your local directory. To run it you could
type in a terminal:

 /home/dennis/.local/bin gnucash %f

I am not exactly sure but I think the %f causes gnucash to open with the
last file it had open. It appears in the installed menu item for gnucash.

You could also add /home/dennis/.local/bin to the path variable by adding
the line 

export PATH=$PATH:/home/dennis/.local/bin

to the file /home/dennis/.profile.  This should create the PATH variable
with /home/dennis/.local/bin added to it when you log on to the system. 
Then you should only have to type 

gnucash %f

at the terminal.  

When you ran make install and installed in a user directory, I don't think
the install process creates a Menu item accessible from your Desktop but I'm
not totally sure about that as I install to /usr/local normally.

If you look up the procedure for installing Menu items for Ubuntu 18.04, you
could create a Menu item which will start Gnucash. I would use the full path
to the executable in this i.e.  /home/dennis/.local/bin gnucash %f. You will
find an icon in 
/home/dennis/.local/share/gnucash/pixmaps/gnucash-icon.ico which you can
attach to the menu item as described in the procedure for creating new menu
items in Ubuntu 18.04.

Good Luck

David





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[GNC] Handling VISA Debit Accounts

[Karen Stingel]

This is a Fix of my previous thread ... Re: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 
182, Issue 8,

apologies for not clarifying the subject line last time.

How does gnc handle the Case of a VISA Debit card?
Technically, this is a BANK account with a VISA enabled card and a $0.00 
Credit Limit

Should it just be created as a normal BANK account type?

Are there any plans to include this as a new Asset Account type in 
future editions of gnc?


Are Python Bindings enabled in the Windows binaries, and could this 
Account type be added via writing a Python script?


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