[LincolnTalk] Locksmith for new door locks

[Susan Mohn]

Does anyone know of a locksmith for new door locks who doesn't charge an arm 
and a leg?  If so, will you please advise?  Thanks in advance!
 
Sue
 
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[LincolnTalk] ISEE Middle School Tutor/Application Essay Prep

[Rachel Shulman]

Dear Lincolnites,

I was wondering if anyone could recommend a tutor for a middle schooler for
the ISEE, as well as someone who might be able to help with application
essays for private schools. A potential client reached out to me for help,
but my own work in this area really focuses on high school seniors
preparing for college. The person I'd love to refer them to isn't
available. I just hate to reply with a simple "sorry, can't help you" and
would prefer to be able to refer them to someone good.

Thanks for considering!

Best,
Rachel
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[LincolnTalk] Hannan Healthy Foods farm stand is open

[Mohammed Hannan]

Greetings!

We are open on the weekend until mid November this season. We'll have a
wide selection of produce at the farm stand this weekend. Here is the
availability:

Arugula
Beans
Carrots with tops
Eggplant
Garlic
Ground cherries
Hakurei Turnip with tops
Kale
Lettuce
Oavation salad mix bunch
Onion red long tropea
Onion, Rosa-di-Melano
Peppers, bell
Peppers, sweet
Radish
Rosemary
Shallot
Squash, acorn
Squash, Autumn frost
Squash, butternut
Tomatillo

Thanks,
Mohammed

Mohammed Hannan, Owner
Hannan Healthy Foods (Certified Organic)
270 South Great Road

Lincoln, MA 01773
C: 8572852911
Website 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Housing Choice/Codman Corner Road

[Joan Kimball]

Staci, thank you for your thoughtful and inspiring explanation. Joan

On Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 8:13 PM Staci Montori  wrote:

> Hi Susanna,
>
> My understanding is that the first SLIPC working group looked at rezoning
> an 'out of the way' area, the Green Ridge/"Flying Nun" condo area. There
> was a huge amount of residential resistance against this proposal.
> Residents and neighbors were concerned that many of the people renting at
> more affordable rates would be forced to move out of Lincoln if the
> property owners wanted to sell to a developer. The current working group
> found this to be a reasonable concern and therefore didn't include this
> area in the recent rezoning plans.
>
> The Codman Road neighborhood (where I live) is all privately owned and
> therefore none of us will be forced to sell or move. Therefore, it is a
> more fair and sensitive rezoning proposal.
>
> We absolutely love living close to the MBTA, the town station, the school,
> the fields and the farms. We utilize all of these often by foot, not by
> car. The main reason we chose to live on Codman Road 23 years ago was for
> the walkability - to the grocery store, the bank, the cafe, and
> to Something Special. And for the bike paths from our home to the schools,
> soccer fields and farms, along with the proximity to all the green space
> and trails surrounding us. I would love for more families and individuals
> (perhaps one of my three children someday) to have the opportunity to live
> at the town station or on parts of my road or Lewis street if parcels are
> redeveloped.
>
> I am very optimistic that any possible negative aesthetic changes and
> traffic patterns to the town station and possibly my neighborhood, will be
> offset by the benefits of providing a home and community to many more
> people. They will all benefit from the amazing things that Lincoln has to
> offer such as extensive green space, organic food and farms, a fantastic
> public school and a commuter rail into Boston. I also think a more vibrant,
> dense town center will attract more successful businesses, making it so we
> all don't have to drive our cars into other communities (causing traffic
> for them) for a variety of things.
>
> Finally, I will say I find the comments from some on LT, that our
> neighborhood is possibly looking to make millions on this change in zoning,
> to be misinformed. We and several of our neighbors want to be part of the
> solution for the housing crisis, lack of diversity and the climate crisis.
> Building a more housing-dense, vibrant, green and accesible town center
> will help with these.
>
> We SO appreciate the HCA committee for being very creative, thoughtful and
> responsive to us and others in town, and for creating a plan that both
> meets the requirements and the spirit of the HCA .
>
> Warm regards,
> Staci Montori & the Montori-Bordiuk Family
> Codman Road
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
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[LincolnTalk] Housing Choice/Codman Corner Road

[Staci Montori]

Hi Susanna,

My understanding is that the first SLIPC working group looked at rezoning
an 'out of the way' area, the Green Ridge/"Flying Nun" condo area. There
was a huge amount of residential resistance against this proposal.
Residents and neighbors were concerned that many of the people renting at
more affordable rates would be forced to move out of Lincoln if the
property owners wanted to sell to a developer. The current working group
found this to be a reasonable concern and therefore didn't include this
area in the recent rezoning plans.

The Codman Road neighborhood (where I live) is all privately owned and
therefore none of us will be forced to sell or move. Therefore, it is a
more fair and sensitive rezoning proposal.

We absolutely love living close to the MBTA, the town station, the school,
the fields and the farms. We utilize all of these often by foot, not by
car. The main reason we chose to live on Codman Road 23 years ago was for
the walkability - to the grocery store, the bank, the cafe, and
to Something Special. And for the bike paths from our home to the schools,
soccer fields and farms, along with the proximity to all the green space
and trails surrounding us. I would love for more families and individuals
(perhaps one of my three children someday) to have the opportunity to live
at the town station or on parts of my road or Lewis street if parcels are
redeveloped.

I am very optimistic that any possible negative aesthetic changes and
traffic patterns to the town station and possibly my neighborhood, will be
offset by the benefits of providing a home and community to many more
people. They will all benefit from the amazing things that Lincoln has to
offer such as extensive green space, organic food and farms, a fantastic
public school and a commuter rail into Boston. I also think a more vibrant,
dense town center will attract more successful businesses, making it so we
all don't have to drive our cars into other communities (causing traffic
for them) for a variety of things.

Finally, I will say I find the comments from some on LT, that our
neighborhood is possibly looking to make millions on this change in zoning,
to be misinformed. We and several of our neighbors want to be part of the
solution for the housing crisis, lack of diversity and the climate crisis.
Building a more housing-dense, vibrant, green and accesible town center
will help with these.

We SO appreciate the HCA committee for being very creative, thoughtful and
responsive to us and others in town, and for creating a plan that both
meets the requirements and the spirit of the HCA .

Warm regards,
Staci Montori & the Montori-Bordiuk Family
Codman Road












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Re: [LincolnTalk] Yet another HCA email

[RAandBOB]

Yes, but how many hours did they spend attending Neighborhood meetings and town board meetings and reconfiguring the site according to the board requirements and then building all these Leeds-Certified units, developing water and septic infrastructure, parking, lots and access roads, refurbishing the existing house. I don’t know the answer to that question but the net profit is not anywhere near the gross profit.Ruth Ann(She, her, hers)On Oct 13, 2023, at 6:21 PM, Scott Clary  wrote:That is correct sarah. 32 million was for the developed project. And the landowner only sold for 2.1 if I recall. That's a pretty good return.Kind Regards,Scott Clary617-968-5769Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors    On Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 2:26 PM ٍSarah Postlethwait  wrote:Robert “That is $32 million split three ways. And for this prime in-town location, I’m guessing the selling price would be even higher.”Just to clarify- the property owners only got 2 million and some change for their property. It honestly was likely undervalued since it was almost 6 acres in Lincoln. civico then developed it and sold it for $32 million. That profit (likely around $10 million) went into civico’s pocket- not the previous property owners.SarahOn Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 6:59 PM Robert Ahlert  wrote:The 6 acres for Oriole Landing sold for $32 million.I believe two 30 unit buildings could be put on the corner of Lincoln Road and Codman Road as well. Look at the septic/wastewater system they designed for Cold Brook, it does not take much physical space. That is $32 million split three ways. And for this prime in-town location, I’m guessing the selling price would be even higher.That’s $10 million each for those property owners. Don’t you think that would be incentive enough to get together and sell as a group?Maybe they will hold out, maybe they won’t.RobOn Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 6:49 PM Karla Gravis  wrote:In response to the question of whether developers are knocking on our door, Lincoln’s own RLF has been working with a developer, Civico, on a 125-unit building in the mall area (slide 26 of the SOTT deck). Civico is the same developer that built Oriole Landing.It is very important to note that under the proposal, village center rezoning will allow developers to build simply by getting a building permit with no need to go to town meeting (slide 9 of the SOTT deck).Given that the Chair and the Executive Director of the RLF sit on the HCA working group, and that the RLF will benefit from the development, it’s reasonable to expect that this project will quickly follow any rezoning.The HCA allows for only 10% affordable housing, so we will end up with ~13 affordable units and 112 units at Oriole Landing prices (which seem to start at $4K per month). It’s naive to think that more developers will not follow Civico once we rezone. Existing Lincoln parcel owners will have a material financial incentive to sell to developers. On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 5:19 PM Susanna Szeto  wrote:If we look around town, the multi-family we have in town now are most tucked away.  They do not hit you in the face as the proposal to the development on Codman Road.  I doubt it will achieve the economic diversity people are looking for if the rent is as high as the Oriole Landing!  I hope we can pause and study how the rezoning will affect the traffic in town before we jump into this!  I have read on Lincoln Talk the developer is already knocking on our doorstep!  Is that true?Susanna SGiles RoadOn Oct 10, 2023, at 5:06 PM, Margaret Olson  wrote:Greg,Conservation restrictions apply irrespective of zoning. The conservation restrictions on Codman and Drumlin (and elsewhere in town, including areas around South Lincoln) prevent those areas from being developed. State law makes it extremely difficult to remove land from conservation - it has to be replaced with equally valuable land.MargaretMargaretOn Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 5:00 PM Greg H.  wrote:All,Thank you to everyone on the housing committee for your service. I'd like to respectfully add my $0.02 from the peanut gallery in support of a pause / step back in rezoning plans.It seems to me that there are three distinct philosophies/options we could pursue, but that we are fully focused on #3.Options1. Drag our feet and/or consider noncompliance: favor Lincoln's rural character above all else2. Comply in letter but not fully in spirit: where possible, overlay new zoning on existing multi-family and/or commercial development to mitigate the impact3. Wholeheartedly comply in both letter and spirit: build as much new housing as possible near the commuter railI understand that many believe we have a moral responsibility to build more housing in Lincoln (and while I disagree, I respect that view) but I believe as stewards we also have a moral responsibility to maintain as much "green" as 

Re: [LincolnTalk] Yet another HCA email

[Scott Clary]

That is correct sarah. 32 million was for the developed project. And the
landowner only sold for 2.1 if I recall. That's a pretty good return.

Kind Regards,

Scott Clary
617-968-5769

Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors

On Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 2:26 PM ٍSarah Postlethwait  wrote:

> Robert
>
> “That is $32 million split three ways. And for this prime in-town
> location, I’m guessing the selling price would be even higher.”
>
> Just to clarify- the property owners only got 2 million and some change
> for their property. It honestly was likely undervalued since it was almost
> 6 acres in Lincoln.
>
> civico then developed it and sold it for $32 million. That profit (likely
> around $10 million) went into civico’s pocket- not the previous property
> owners.
>
> Sarah
>
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 6:59 PM Robert Ahlert  wrote:
>
>> The 6 acres for Oriole Landing sold for $32 million.
>>
>> I believe two 30 unit buildings could be put on the corner of Lincoln
>> Road and Codman Road as well. Look at the septic/wastewater system they
>> designed for Cold Brook, it does not take much physical space.
>>
>> That is $32 million split three ways. And for this prime in-town
>> location, I’m guessing the selling price would be even higher.
>>
>> That’s $10 million each for those property owners. Don’t you think that
>> would be incentive enough to get together and sell as a group?
>>
>> Maybe they will hold out, maybe they won’t.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 6:49 PM Karla Gravis 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In response to the question of whether developers are knocking on our
>>> door, Lincoln’s own RLF has been working with a developer, Civico, on a
>>> 125-unit building in the mall area (slide 26 of the SOTT deck). Civico is
>>> the same developer that built Oriole Landing.
>>>
>>> It is very important to note that under the proposal, village center
>>> rezoning will allow developers to build simply by getting a building permit
>>> with no need to go to town meeting (slide 9 of the SOTT deck).
>>>
>>> Given that the Chair and the Executive Director of the RLF sit on the
>>> HCA working group, and that the RLF will benefit from the development, it’s
>>> reasonable to expect that this project will quickly follow any rezoning.
>>>
>>> The HCA allows for only 10% affordable housing, so we will end up with
>>> ~13 affordable units and 112 units at Oriole Landing prices (which seem to
>>> start at $4K per month).
>>>
>>> It’s naive to think that more developers will not follow Civico once we
>>> rezone. Existing Lincoln parcel owners will have a material financial
>>> incentive to sell to developers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>


 On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 5:19 PM Susanna Szeto 
 wrote:

> If we look around town, the multi-family we have in town now are most
> tucked away.  They do not hit you in the face as the proposal to the
> development on Codman Road.  I doubt it will achieve the economic 
> diversity
> people are looking for if the rent is as high as the Oriole Landing!  I
> hope we can pause and study how the rezoning will affect the traffic in
> town before we jump into this!  I have read on Lincoln Talk the developer
> is already knocking on our doorstep!  Is that true?
> Susanna S
> Giles Road
>
> On Oct 10, 2023, at 5:06 PM, Margaret Olson 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Greg,
> Conservation restrictions apply irrespective of zoning. The
> conservation restrictions on Codman and Drumlin (and elsewhere in town,
> including areas around South Lincoln) prevent those areas from being
> developed. State law makes it extremely difficult to remove land from
> conservation - it has to be replaced with equally valuable land.
>
> Margaret
>
> Margaret
>
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 5:00 PM Greg H. 
> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> Thank you to everyone on the housing committee for your service. I'd
>> like to respectfully add my $0.02 from the peanut gallery in support of a
>> pause / step back in rezoning plans.
>>
>> It seems to me that there are three distinct philosophies/options we
>> could pursue, but that we are fully focused on #3.
>>
>> *Options*
>> 1. Drag our feet and/or consider noncompliance: favor Lincoln's rural
>> character above all else
>> 2. Comply in letter but not fully in spirit: where possible, overlay
>> new zoning on existing multi-family and/or commercial development to
>> mitigate the impact
>> 3. Wholeheartedly comply in both letter and spirit: build as much new
>> housing as possible near the commuter rail
>>
>> I understand that many believe we have a moral responsibility to
>> build more housing in Lincoln (and while I disagree, I respect that view)
>> but I believe as stewards we also have a moral responsibility to maintain
>> as much "green" as possible and to preserve 

Re: [LincolnTalk] Middle east conflict

[Lynn DeLisi, M.D. via Lincoln]

 Agreed!! Is this the same Town that publicly speaks out about wanting 
diversity and inclusion and contemplates how to do it? I've seen many detailed 
notices about zoning changes and whether we should have a 2-story or 1-story 
community center--but we should be speaking out loudly against the atrocities 
that are occurring. The children murdered in Israel will never have the chance 
to be in a LEAP after school program--whether or not it is in a community 
center.My friends in Israel are being called up to the front lines, their 
families have lost loved ones and the hospitals are overwhelmed with the 
injured both physically and mentally. There must be a way that our leadership 
can organize donations to help or at least make a strong public statement 
today--the day Hamas has announced that their followers worldwide should kill 
Jews.
On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 08:05:50 AM EDT, Garrick Niemiec 
 wrote:  
 
 I'm shocked our leadership has not taken a position on the Palestine Israel 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Shaina's media

[Bijoy Misra]

Admirable!  Loved it!
Bijoy

On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 8:18 AM Stephen R. Low <
steve@gordianconcepts.com> wrote:

> Here is a link to Shaina’s BBC interview on Oct. 12:
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9pztesbqk0z9aszigyvsv/BBC_News_Channel-2023-10-12_15-12-40-1.mp4?rlkey=xl5jaijcsahyqphfuxx8x7yfz=0
>
>
>
> I’ve not yet watched it, since I’m on Al Jazeera English where she’s
> scheduled to appear in the 8 to 9 am hour (https://www.aljazeera.com/)
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Steve Low
>
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Yet another HCA email

[Robert Ahlert]

Yes, thank you, I mischaracterized that.  Sorry.

Rob

‪On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 2:26 PM ‫ٍSarah Postlethwait‬‎ 
wrote:‬

> Robert
>
> “That is $32 million split three ways. And for this prime in-town
> location, I’m guessing the selling price would be even higher.”
>
> Just to clarify- the property owners only got 2 million and some change
> for their property. It honestly was likely undervalued since it was almost
> 6 acres in Lincoln.
>
> civico then developed it and sold it for $32 million. That profit (likely
> around $10 million) went into civico’s pocket- not the previous property
> owners.
>
> Sarah
>
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 6:59 PM Robert Ahlert  wrote:
>
>> The 6 acres for Oriole Landing sold for $32 million.
>>
>> I believe two 30 unit buildings could be put on the corner of Lincoln
>> Road and Codman Road as well. Look at the septic/wastewater system they
>> designed for Cold Brook, it does not take much physical space.
>>
>> That is $32 million split three ways. And for this prime in-town
>> location, I’m guessing the selling price would be even higher.
>>
>> That’s $10 million each for those property owners. Don’t you think that
>> would be incentive enough to get together and sell as a group?
>>
>> Maybe they will hold out, maybe they won’t.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 6:49 PM Karla Gravis 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In response to the question of whether developers are knocking on our
>>> door, Lincoln’s own RLF has been working with a developer, Civico, on a
>>> 125-unit building in the mall area (slide 26 of the SOTT deck). Civico is
>>> the same developer that built Oriole Landing.
>>>
>>> It is very important to note that under the proposal, village center
>>> rezoning will allow developers to build simply by getting a building permit
>>> with no need to go to town meeting (slide 9 of the SOTT deck).
>>>
>>> Given that the Chair and the Executive Director of the RLF sit on the
>>> HCA working group, and that the RLF will benefit from the development, it’s
>>> reasonable to expect that this project will quickly follow any rezoning.
>>>
>>> The HCA allows for only 10% affordable housing, so we will end up with
>>> ~13 affordable units and 112 units at Oriole Landing prices (which seem to
>>> start at $4K per month).
>>>
>>> It’s naive to think that more developers will not follow Civico once we
>>> rezone. Existing Lincoln parcel owners will have a material financial
>>> incentive to sell to developers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>


 On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 5:19 PM Susanna Szeto 
 wrote:

> If we look around town, the multi-family we have in town now are most
> tucked away.  They do not hit you in the face as the proposal to the
> development on Codman Road.  I doubt it will achieve the economic 
> diversity
> people are looking for if the rent is as high as the Oriole Landing!  I
> hope we can pause and study how the rezoning will affect the traffic in
> town before we jump into this!  I have read on Lincoln Talk the developer
> is already knocking on our doorstep!  Is that true?
> Susanna S
> Giles Road
>
> On Oct 10, 2023, at 5:06 PM, Margaret Olson 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Greg,
> Conservation restrictions apply irrespective of zoning. The
> conservation restrictions on Codman and Drumlin (and elsewhere in town,
> including areas around South Lincoln) prevent those areas from being
> developed. State law makes it extremely difficult to remove land from
> conservation - it has to be replaced with equally valuable land.
>
> Margaret
>
> Margaret
>
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 5:00 PM Greg H. 
> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> Thank you to everyone on the housing committee for your service. I'd
>> like to respectfully add my $0.02 from the peanut gallery in support of a
>> pause / step back in rezoning plans.
>>
>> It seems to me that there are three distinct philosophies/options we
>> could pursue, but that we are fully focused on #3.
>>
>> *Options*
>> 1. Drag our feet and/or consider noncompliance: favor Lincoln's rural
>> character above all else
>> 2. Comply in letter but not fully in spirit: where possible, overlay
>> new zoning on existing multi-family and/or commercial development to
>> mitigate the impact
>> 3. Wholeheartedly comply in both letter and spirit: build as much new
>> housing as possible near the commuter rail
>>
>> I understand that many believe we have a moral responsibility to
>> build more housing in Lincoln (and while I disagree, I respect that view)
>> but I believe as stewards we also have a moral responsibility to maintain
>> as much "green" as possible and to preserve the rural character of our 
>> town
>> for future generations. I'm especially concerned that creating a Cold 
>> Brook
>> Crossing on Codman Rd will both a) 

Re: [LincolnTalk] Yet another HCA email

[ٍSarah Postlethwait]

Robert

“That is $32 million split three ways. And for this prime in-town location,
I’m guessing the selling price would be even higher.”

Just to clarify- the property owners only got 2 million and some change for
their property. It honestly was likely undervalued since it was almost 6
acres in Lincoln.

civico then developed it and sold it for $32 million. That profit (likely
around $10 million) went into civico’s pocket- not the previous property
owners.

Sarah

On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 6:59 PM Robert Ahlert  wrote:

> The 6 acres for Oriole Landing sold for $32 million.
>
> I believe two 30 unit buildings could be put on the corner of Lincoln Road
> and Codman Road as well. Look at the septic/wastewater system they designed
> for Cold Brook, it does not take much physical space.
>
> That is $32 million split three ways. And for this prime in-town location,
> I’m guessing the selling price would be even higher.
>
> That’s $10 million each for those property owners. Don’t you think that
> would be incentive enough to get together and sell as a group?
>
> Maybe they will hold out, maybe they won’t.
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 6:49 PM Karla Gravis 
> wrote:
>
>> In response to the question of whether developers are knocking on our
>> door, Lincoln’s own RLF has been working with a developer, Civico, on a
>> 125-unit building in the mall area (slide 26 of the SOTT deck). Civico is
>> the same developer that built Oriole Landing.
>>
>> It is very important to note that under the proposal, village center
>> rezoning will allow developers to build simply by getting a building permit
>> with no need to go to town meeting (slide 9 of the SOTT deck).
>>
>> Given that the Chair and the Executive Director of the RLF sit on the HCA
>> working group, and that the RLF will benefit from the development, it’s
>> reasonable to expect that this project will quickly follow any rezoning.
>>
>> The HCA allows for only 10% affordable housing, so we will end up with
>> ~13 affordable units and 112 units at Oriole Landing prices (which seem to
>> start at $4K per month).
>>
>> It’s naive to think that more developers will not follow Civico once we
>> rezone. Existing Lincoln parcel owners will have a material financial
>> incentive to sell to developers.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 5:19 PM Susanna Szeto 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 If we look around town, the multi-family we have in town now are most
 tucked away.  They do not hit you in the face as the proposal to the
 development on Codman Road.  I doubt it will achieve the economic diversity
 people are looking for if the rent is as high as the Oriole Landing!  I
 hope we can pause and study how the rezoning will affect the traffic in
 town before we jump into this!  I have read on Lincoln Talk the developer
 is already knocking on our doorstep!  Is that true?
 Susanna S
 Giles Road

 On Oct 10, 2023, at 5:06 PM, Margaret Olson 
 wrote:

 

 Greg,
 Conservation restrictions apply irrespective of zoning. The
 conservation restrictions on Codman and Drumlin (and elsewhere in town,
 including areas around South Lincoln) prevent those areas from being
 developed. State law makes it extremely difficult to remove land from
 conservation - it has to be replaced with equally valuable land.

 Margaret

 Margaret

 On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 5:00 PM Greg H. 
 wrote:

> All,
>
> Thank you to everyone on the housing committee for your service. I'd
> like to respectfully add my $0.02 from the peanut gallery in support of a
> pause / step back in rezoning plans.
>
> It seems to me that there are three distinct philosophies/options we
> could pursue, but that we are fully focused on #3.
>
> *Options*
> 1. Drag our feet and/or consider noncompliance: favor Lincoln's rural
> character above all else
> 2. Comply in letter but not fully in spirit: where possible, overlay
> new zoning on existing multi-family and/or commercial development to
> mitigate the impact
> 3. Wholeheartedly comply in both letter and spirit: build as much new
> housing as possible near the commuter rail
>
> I understand that many believe we have a moral responsibility to build
> more housing in Lincoln (and while I disagree, I respect that view) but I
> believe as stewards we also have a moral responsibility to maintain as 
> much
> "green" as possible and to preserve the rural character of our town for
> future generations. I'm especially concerned that creating a Cold Brook
> Crossing on Codman Rd will both a) unnecessarily cut down a lot of trees,
> and b) materially change Codman Farm, Drumlin Farm, and the rest of South
> Lincoln, forever.
>
> I support increasing Lincoln's diversity (including economic
> diversity), and I realize that #3 might help us achieve 

[LincolnTalk] *No* Lincoln Arts and Farmers Market 10/14

[Jocelyn Finlay]

Note there is no Lincoln Arts and Farmers Market tomorrow (Saturday 14th
October) as the Scarecrow Run registration will be set up on the green.

The market will return on 10/21 and 10/28.

Come along to the market those dates to order your dahlia tuber from
Margie, who will over-winter your selection,
https://JocelynFinlayPhoto.pixieset.com/pillarfarmflowers/

Book your family photo session with Jocelyn (me),
https://jocelynfinlay.com/fall/. Time slots are filling up for 10/21 and
10/28, but there are still spots available. Book online or email me.

Best wishes,

Jocelyn
https://jocelynfinlay.com/fall/
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[LincolnTalk] Shaina's media--going forward

[Stephen R. Low]

[To those who may have tuned to Al Jazeera this morning (either online or
streamed on TV): I did not spot Shaina during the 8 to 9 hour and just
quickly scanned the 9 to 10 hour and didn’t see any video that featured her,
either. Apologies for this “false alert”]

 

Please note that I absolutely do not want to bring the Israel-Gaza war into
Lincoln Talk! And I hope that no one else does, either! LincolnTalk is not
the place for discussion or activism on this issue, and there are plenty of
other venues where people can engage on this catastrophe.

 

As we’ve learned in the past few days, when dealing with a war, when dealing
with communications difficulties, and when dealing with unscheduled breaking
events, scheduled media appearances become more like proposals than
commitments, because they are subject to change without notice.
Consequently, we’re going to stop posting information about “Shaina will be
in the media”—which too often had a plot line more like “The Boy Who Cried
Wolf.”

 

That said,  Barbara and I are proud of our daughter and because so many
people on LincolnTalk know her, we’re willing to share with the community
what is really a local story about a woman who grew up here.

 

On some occasions, the media will provide a link to a radio or TV broadcast
they’ve already aired, and when then happens we can post that link to
LincolnTalk—as I did the other day for Shaina’s appearance on Channel 25 or
earlier today for Shaina’s appearance on the BBC yesterday.

 

For those interested in supplementing mainstream American media coverage of
the war:

 

*   Try Al Jazeera English—available online
(https://www.aljazeera.com/), or free using a Roku device and possibly other
streaming platforms. 

 

*   Democracy Now (https://www.democracynow.org/)

 

*   Haaretz, an English Language Israeli newspaper that’s online
(https://www.haaretz.com/)

 

Haaretz is an excellent resource, but most of its content is behind a
paywall. Several years ago, our GRALTA Foundation negotiated an arrangement
that permits us to post links to stories we select that penetrate the
paywall to a page on our website (www.gralta.org/news
 ). You can check that out. (FYI, Haaretz is
non-profit, and we make substantial contributions to support it.)

 

I’ve been posting links to Haaretz stories a few times/week, and when I do I
send an email to my “Haaretz list.” If anyone would like to be added to that
list, please let me know. And if you tire of getting those emails, let me
know that, too—I’ll take you off the list.

 

As many know, Barbara, Shaina, and I have been concerned about “The Holy
Land Problem” for many years. Barbara or I would be happy to talk with
anyone about our views, and we have considerable information that we can
offer. We would be especially interested in connecting with the local
churches (St. Joseph’s, St Anne’s, and First Parish). It’s long amazed us
that they seem to have so little interest in The Holy Land Problem,
considering the impact it’s had on the Christian community, which has slowly
been driven out of Bethlehem and marginalized within Israel.

 

Regards,
Steve Low

 

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Shaina's media

[Sara Mattes]

Thank you for posting. 
Shaina’s report is amazing- poised, articulate, compassionate.
Important reports from inside Gaza.



Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 13, 2023, at 8:18 AM, Stephen R. Low  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Here is a link to Shaina’s BBC interview on Oct. 12: 
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9pztesbqk0z9aszigyvsv/BBC_News_Channel-2023-10-12_15-12-40-1.mp4?rlkey=xl5jaijcsahyqphfuxx8x7yfz=0
>  
> I’ve not yet watched it, since I’m on Al Jazeera English where she’s 
> scheduled to appear in the 8 to 9 am hour (https://www.aljazeera.com/)
>  
> Regards,
> Steve Low
>  
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[LincolnTalk] Kids Food Drive at Donelan's this Sunday! Join the fun!

[Abigail Adams via Lincoln]

The children of First Parish are hosting a food donation table outside of 
Donelan’s this Sunday during the Scarecrow Classic. Kids aged 6+ will meet at 
Donelan’s at 9:45am to run a festive Fall Food Drive for our local food pantry. 
Children along with the help of our adult volunteers will walk across the 
street to the food pantry and help stock the shelves after we’ve collected 
donations. 
It's a great opportunity to have fun and feel the power of teamwork and helping 
others! Adults/Caregivers can drop-off their children and head to church or 
stay to help out! Pick-up is at 11:30 at the food pantry across the street- St. 
Vincent de Paul (142 Lincoln Rd.). We hope to see you all there!
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[LincolnTalk] Shaina's media

[Stephen R. Low]

Here is a link to Shaina’s BBC interview on Oct. 12:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9pztesbqk0z9aszigyvsv/BBC_News_Channel-2023-1
0-12_15-12-40-1.mp4?rlkey=xl5jaijcsahyqphfuxx8x7yfz
 =0

 

I’ve not yet watched it, since I’m on Al Jazeera English where she’s
scheduled to appear in the 8 to 9 am hour (https://www.aljazeera.com/)

 

Regards,
Steve Low

 

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Re: [LincolnTalk] On yesterday's HCA meeting

[Cathy O'Brien]

I had a few residents send me a note that CIVICO was not part of the school

That is a true statement

Residents told me that Consigli development did the job


If you do the research…
CIVICO - Andrew Consigli is - partner of CIVICO…

Coincidence on the name… NOT


Now.. as I think about how CIVICO has gone about acquiring land

They bought the Morrissey land (Oriole Landing)
On market- went through the “town” process - and that is what I call “fast
track “ because Lincoln wanted to solve for 40b - I get it- don’t
necessarily agree but ok…

During the process they at every meeting said we are committed to the
community.. we are in it for the long hall.. we are in it for the long
hall-  sold for $32m later..

So they were correct they are committed to the community - they are
connected in cashing in on the next project..
How have they gotten connected so the RLF is going to sell them a lot of
land.. ? ..and then Probably sell for a large profit……

How did this happen?
I think @scottcleary said- why did we not know about this?

I will admit I don’t know much about the RLF?
But again.. Shenanigans in the town


My opinion..
Cathy Obrien

And yes.. I am speaking what NO ONE in this town wants to say.. (so I am
told by emails) because they are afraid of the back lash of the town


On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 8:00 PM Cathy O'Brien 
wrote:

>
>
> This sounds like it is being “fast tracked”
>
> Very similar to “oriole landing” approval of their development I think it
> Was approved in 9 months- fastest development approval in Lincoln
>
> Common denominator- CIVICO
>
> In full disclosure I am the largest abutter to oriole landing
>
> But I truly believe there is shenanigans with some sort of secret
> relationship with in Lincoln
>
> NO development moves this fast in Lincoln
>
>
> Why is ONE developer been the SOLE company to be the finalist in the 2
> largest housing increase in a small amount of time for such a small town…
>
> And if I recall… CIVICO was involved in building the school….
>
> There is something not right about this….
>
>
> Cathy obrien
> 3 Mary’s way
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 6:29 PM Karla Gravis 
> wrote:
>
>> I encourage all those interested who were not able to attend to watch the
>> Q portion of the HCA meeting last night once it is uploaded.
>>
>>
>>- The committee spent a lot of time reviewing what has been
>>accomplished to date and discussing amongst themselves but little time was
>>dedicated to public debate. Few of the public questions were actually
>>answered by the committee, at times the mic was just passed on to the next
>>question without any response. This is similar to previous meetings, where
>>there is little room for resident debate. In my opinion, the outreach has
>>been one-directional. The working group is composed only of people who sit
>>on other boards, are town employees, or work for the RLF. There is no
>>opportunity for a regular resident or member-at-large to be part of the
>>decision-making. There are outstanding resident questions that the
>>committee hasn’t answered.
>>- The town legal counsel was present during the meeting. When asked
>>why the Committee was contradicting his counsel as stated on public 
>> record,
>>he indicated that he had changed his mind on the enforceability of
>>compliance. He did not provide any facts to explain this reversal. He said
>>that his new stance had come from a collaborative effort with his
>>partners. This was very surprising to hear, as this very same law firm is
>>defending the town of Holden, which has decided not to comply with the 
>> HCA.
>>Our lawyer's partners at his firm, KP Law, wrote a motion to dismiss the
>>action against Holden. We should not be rushing to comply just because
>>“non-compliance is a risk” given our own lawyer's firm seems to be giving
>>other towns the opposite message to what they are telling us. There are
>>other towns like Weston which seem to be comfortable taking a wait-and-see
>>approach.
>>- The committee repeated its claim that we will lose millions in
>>grant money by not complying. However, we have never received any money
>>from the grants named in the actual HCA legislation. When this was brought
>>up, the committee did not respond. The committee claims we should comply
>>because we could use one of the grant programs to update the Village 
>> Center
>>septic system to benefit a private developer. I struggle to understand why
>>the town would need to fund this private enterprise. Wouldn’t we be 
>> setting
>>a terrible precedent?
>>- The committee continues to quote a pandemic-era traffic study and a
>>flawed financial analysis to claim there is "no impact" to current
>>residents. The financial analysis used a cost per student of $6.3K, when
>>our school's cost per student is at least 4 times that.  This
>>

[LincolnTalk] Middle east conflict

[Garrick Niemiec]

I'm shocked our leadership has not taken a position on the Palestine Israel
conflict!
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