Re: ONE COMMON FAITH - Dominus Iesus, side-by-side common study (1)

2005-05-07 Thread Barmak Kusha
But Gilberto, As Baha'is, we recognize the Firm Handle ("urvat'ul vuthgha") of the Word of God, "the unerring balance." This is not something that can be "solved" outside of that, is it? If that were the case, then why would Baha'u'llah establish unerring proofs? Or am I looking at this from a

Re: ONE COMMON FAITH - Dominus Iesus, side-by-side common study (1)

2005-05-07 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Gilberto, you wrote: So for example, I realize and appreciate (really I do) that from your perspective the issue of who is or isn't Bahai is rather clear. But there are also other people claiming to be Bahai who don't necessarily meet your criteria. So implicitly or explicitly, you are

Re: ONE COMMON FAITH - Dominus Iesus, side-by-side common study (1)

2005-05-06 Thread Mark A. Foster
In terms of these three soteriologies, I put together this page of links about a year ago: http://links.religionsnet.com/soteriologies.html Here is a page where I offer my own thoughts on the subject: http://salvation.bahaifaith.info/ This is a posting I made on this subject some time ago:

Re: ONE COMMON FAITH - Dominus Iesus, side-by-side common study (1)

2005-05-06 Thread Mark A. Foster
Mistake: I wrote: A Baha'i can, IMO, be heteropraxic but not heterodox. That should have been: A Baha'i can, IMO, be heterodox but not heteropraxic. Via moderna, Mark A. Foster • Portal: http://markfoster.net ... since [a] word is said to be common, it can be called a universal - William of

Re: ONE COMMON FAITH - Dominus Iesus, side-by-side common study (1)

2005-05-06 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
I do not consider `Abdu'l-Baha's seasonal analogy to be evidence He believed that the force of a Revelation could be exhausted. When a person goes from third to fourth grade, the energy of third grade is not depleted. However, just as the child would normally move on (while still benefiting

Re: ONE COMMON FAITH - Dominus Iesus, side-by-side common study (1)

2005-05-06 Thread Mark A. Foster
Richard, At 03:52 PM 5/6/2005, you wrote: Excellent explanation with perfectly matching supportive quotation in this section. I had forgotten that I revised (slightly) this message and placed it on the web: http://bahaistudies.net/soteriology.html Via moderna, Mark A. Foster • Portal:

Re: ONE COMMON FAITH - Dominus Iesus, side-by-side common study (1)

2005-05-06 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On 5/6/05, Mark A. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just as there are various Christianities, Islams, Judaisms, Hinduisms, etc., there are, and should be, a multitude of Baha'i faiths (polydoxy). What unites us as Baha'is, and gives us our shared identity, is not our orthodoxy, our

Re: ONE COMMON FAITH - Dominus Iesus, side-by-side common study (1)

2005-05-06 Thread Mark A. Foster
Hi, Gilberto, At 05:25 PM 5/6/2005, you wrote: Is that really how the Bahai faith fits into the above framework? It seems more like a particular understanding of Bahai orthodoxy? The analogy which comes to mind is that what you said sounds like a Christian saying Of course, there are many

Re: ONE COMMON FAITH - Dominus Iesus, side-by-side common study (1)

2005-05-06 Thread Gilberto Simpson
Ok. fair enough. -Gilberto On 5/6/05, Mark A. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Gilberto, At 05:25 PM 5/6/2005, you wrote: Is that really how the Bahai faith fits into the above framework? It seems more like a particular understanding of Bahai orthodoxy? The analogy which comes to

Re: ONE COMMON FAITH - Dominus Iesus, side-by-side common study (1)

2005-05-06 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Gilberto: Just in general, it seems very hard to get around the issue. Anytime you take a religious group and you want to define it, by definition that means setting limits as to who is in, and who is out. And unless you simply accept everyone who self-identifies, it seems like you would

ONE COMMON FAITH - Dominus Iesus, side-by-side common study (1)

2005-05-05 Thread Barmak Kusha
Dear Friends, I will now post ONE COMMON FAITH, and Dominus Iesus, two to three pages at a time (daily? ever other day? weekly?), in that order, if that is ok, for our study. I will start with thePreface by the Universal House of Justice; and I will follow it by the Introduction to Dominus

RE: ONE COMMON FAITH - Dominus Iesus, side-by-side common study (1)

2005-05-05 Thread Khazeh Fananapazir
May 2005 22:15 To: Baha'i Studies Subject: ONE COMMON FAITH - Dominus Iesus, side-by-side common study (1) Dear Friends, I will now post ONE COMMON FAITH, and Dominus Iesus, two to three pages at a time (daily? ever other day? weekly?), in that order, if that is ok, for our study