Joel as you can see from the CC: headers above this email is going out to
more than just yourself. The point(s) I'm making below I consider to be
important to the Debian project as a whole.
As can be seen from bug #23367, you sent me an email to tell me there was
a newer version of gd than the
Dermot John Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought that a non-maintainer release was normally only done where
either a security hole needed to be fixed quickly or where a serious
problem existed with a package that the maintainer had not fixed for some
time.
The previous version was
On 15 Jun 1998, Martin Mitchell wrote:
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, but note that the current version of ae fixes a lot of these
problems. [I found this out while attempting to verify some
of my gripes about ae.]
Is it just me, or does the vi mode in the current version
AE continues to seem terribly buggy. The keystrokes inexplicably seem
different every time I use it. Sometimes F10 means save, other times
its ^W. Often, the arrow keys are non-functional. It is very rare to
get it to do both a backspace and delete operation.
Joe, BTW, has its native
Yann Now another idea would be jed. It's quite small (but maybe bigger
Yann than joe, don't know, don't have joe installed any more), uses
Yann S-lang, is emacs-likee, has vi emulation AFAIK.
jed is currently without a maintainer, and the hamm version has too many
bugs. The previous
Dermot == Dermot John Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dermot I now see that you have uploaded a non-maintainer release of
Dermot this new version to master.debian.org! To be blunt I'm pissed
Dermot about this...indeed this is *not* the first time someone has
Dermot decided to do a
On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote:
Kachina Technologies is willing to provide hardware resources and any
other help we might need to make this project a reality. They have even
offered heavily discounted (50%) prices on development machines for
selected developers.
What sort of
On 15 Jun 1998, Jens Ritter wrote:
I currently write a programm which checks if a mirror only contains
valid files.
mdsum -vc md5sums ?
Jason
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On 15 Jun 1998, Martin Mitchell wrote:
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, but note that the current version of ae fixes a lot of these
problems. [I found this out while attempting to verify some
of my gripes about ae.]
Is it just me, or does the vi mode in the current version
On Mon, Jun 15, 1998 at 12:34:38PM +0200, Yann Dirson wrote:
Andreas Jellinghaus writes:
what then ?
joe.
Well, that's IMHO an idea worth worth studying. When I first
installed Linux, I was coming from DOS and Borland's editors, which
joe mimics quite closely.
And joe, like ae,
'Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote:'
Chris Fearnley, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
But yesterday I upgraded a bo system to hamm which has a 3000 line
/etc/passwd. Now adduser takes OVER ONE MINUTE to find a UID and GID
for the new user. And my staff is complaining about the wasted
Kachina Technologies is strongly interested in Debian Sparc for the
hardware they distribute. They are offering resources for this effort with
the goal being a commercial grade Debian distribution.
Hi. I know this isn't the time, place, method or means, but please allow
me to introduce
I was having trouble installing apache_1.1.3-6 on a bo machine that
had an earlier apache (1.0.x) installed. I kept getting an error in
the pre-installation script. I thought it was because of the previous
version so I removed the previous version. Now I still can't get
1.1.3-6 to install and I
Bob Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam P. Harris) writes:
Interesting. Apparently, there's going to be coverage of these topics
in the release notes, not the install.sgml document.
Volunteers? I'm a bit overcommitted ;)
I wrote the autoup.sh README, and
Hi,
I noticed with surprise tonight that my clock was an hour off.
Investigating the matter revealed that /etc/timezone said
US/Central. running /usr/sbin/tzconfig and setting it to
SystemV/CST6CDT fixed the problem.
However, the install program, and tzconfig, both have a problem. They
do
On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
On 15 Jun 1998, Jens Ritter wrote:
I currently write a programm which checks if a mirror only contains
valid files.
mdsum -vc md5sums ?
Not quite. In md5sums are many more files as in the tree I want to test.
And what about the files in
Hi,
I have now successfully built the GCC, gdb, binutils, etc. packages
for Debian. The package name is prc-tools and should be in Incoming
by the time you read this. It was quite a chore to package but it is
quite exciting what can be done with it!
I'd like feedback on it. I have opted to
What makes debian the best? Some say it is because we
have the most packages. Some say it is because we are
the most technically knowledgeable. Some say it is
because are releases are extremely stable. And yet
others will say it is because out packages are entirely
free. Well, I agree with
Raul Miller writes:
I'm aware of two issues:
(1) mysql is significantly faster
Will comment on this one later.
(2) postgres forces you to abandon ansi sql for a number of things
where mysql allows you to use ansi sql.
Which ansi sql feature is missing?
Michael
--
Dr. Michael Meskes,
Gergely Madarasz writes:
I find it much faster, it uses less resources... of course it has less
features too, but you dont always need subselects and transactions.
It doesn't have transactions? Whew, I never expected that.
Michael
--
Dr. Michael Meskes, Project-Manager| topsystem
Drake Diedrich writes:
In some tests I ran, I found that postgres was only capable of 4
transactions per second in the default configuration. The speed could be
increased to 80 transactions/sec if you were willing to turn off the
automatic disk syncing. It is not clear from the mysql
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Package: tetex-base
Version: 0.9-7
When the user first hits an ungenerated font then permission denied
messages are plentiful... :)
The fonts get generated correctly, but it is a security problem to let
everybody write the ls-R file.
I believe that the
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Michael Meskes wrote:
Gergely Madarasz writes:
I find it much faster, it uses less resources... of course it has less
features too, but you dont always need subselects and transactions.
It doesn't have transactions? Whew, I never expected that.
You can lock the
Dirk Eddelbuettel writes:
Yann Now another idea would be jed. It's quite small (but maybe bigger
Yann than joe, don't know, don't have joe installed any more), uses
Yann S-lang, is emacs-likee, has vi emulation AFAIK.
jed is currently without a maintainer, and the hamm version
On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, John Goerzen wrote:
Hi,
I noticed with surprise tonight that my clock was an hour off.
Investigating the matter revealed that /etc/timezone said
US/Central. running /usr/sbin/tzconfig and setting it to
SystemV/CST6CDT fixed the problem.
However, the install
w3mir or hamm eats a lot of memory when it is running for a while (days). Top
looks like this
PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND
695 allmendk 3 0 372 9672 R 0 4.2 0.3 0:38 in.ftpd
223 rainer19 19 45412 21M 436 R N
James A.Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In making enquiries to LJ about the cost of advertising,
Debian was given an offer of 2 one-half page ads if
we do some work on some Linux docs that the LJ is
maintaining. This is an opportunity we shouldn't
let pass.
Oh, this is just _great_! When
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The boot disks should not offer confusing options. They should offer
the working one (CST6CDT for me) and no non-working ones. The same
goes for tzconfig. Otherwise, anybody using xntp or something similar
will always get incorrect times.
I'm
Previously Nikita Schmidt wrote:
When run on Alpha, vim produces an unaligned trap. In fact, the problem
is more serious than just the unaligned access, for there happens to be
a long access to an int quantity (see the patch below). This problem
also exists in 5.0-0.2 and 5.1.
I'm building
On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 07:54:42AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
I'd say something like: If your time changes for daylight savings
time, use these options. Otherwise, use these.
Something needs to be done on the bootdisks, too.
OK. So, which are the options for DST and which are the others?
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, John Goerzen wrote:
Investigating the matter revealed that /etc/timezone said
US/Central. running /usr/sbin/tzconfig and setting it to
SystemV/CST6CDT fixed the problem.
I'm sorry to disapoint you, but US/Central is a
Previously Wichert Akkerman wrote:
And the upstream author also says we really should put 5.1 in hamm,
and who would want to argue with him?
I've just checked the 5.0 - 5.1 changelog. Basically some a whole bunch of
errors have been fixedand Win32-support has been vastly improved,
There are
severity 23000 standard
This is ONLY A PROBLEM FOR PEOPLE WHO ALTER PROCMAIL UNEXPECTEDLY. THIS
IS NOT A PROBLEM FOR MOST STANDARD CONFIGURATIONS. THERE IS A PERFECTLY
USEFUL WORKAROUND TO CONFIGURE SENDMAIL TO USE DELIVER INSTEAD. This is
therefore NOT release critical.
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998,
No, you're not hiding this on the bug tracking system any more.
The reason that sendmail broke is that you made a DELIBERATE modification
to procmail that sendmail wasn't expecting. While I agree that sendmail
should probably be more graceful about handling it, it is not a
release-critical
mod_perl (which I'm going to package as libapache-mod-perl .. any
better ideas?) is an apache module for tighter integration of Perl with
Apache. With the releases of 1.12, mod_perl compiles pretty simply as a
shared Apache module, so now looks like the right time to package it up.
The package is
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jun 13, 1998 at 12:03:34AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
I'd like to receive some help. The program gets called with the
following command
/usr/bin/java JavaLex.Main $*
The main problem is that there is no JavaLex.Main file. It is not
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote:
: On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, John Goerzen wrote:
:
:
: Hi,
:
: I noticed with surprise tonight that my clock was an hour off.
:
: Investigating the matter revealed that /etc/timezone said
: US/Central. running /usr/sbin/tzconfig and setting it to
:
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Brandon Mitchell wrote:
: On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote:
:
: On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, John Goerzen wrote:
:
: Investigating the matter revealed that /etc/timezone said
: US/Central. running /usr/sbin/tzconfig and setting it to
: SystemV/CST6CDT fixed the
Previously Wichert Akkerman wrote:
And the upstream author also says we really should put 5.1 in hamm,
and who would want to argue with him?
I've just checked the 5.0 - 5.1 changelog. Basically some a whole bunch of
errors have been fixedand Win32-support has been vastly improved,
At 05:54 -0700 1998-06-16, John Goerzen wrote:
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The boot disks should not offer confusing options. They should offer
the working one (CST6CDT for me) and no non-working ones. The same
goes for tzconfig. Otherwise, anybody using xntp or something
Previously Alex Yukhimets wrote:
(But on the other hand, as a real VIM addict, I always compile all the vim
alphas myself - and with Motif GUI).
The vim 5.1 package is linked with X. If you use Xaw3d there is no real
advantage to using Motif for vim anymore.
In any case. if author thinks that
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This is the old .rc file, left behind by a dpkg artifact during the
upgrade. While future versions of ae will be able to remove this file, I
don't see Brian letting it into hamm, but as it is only useful in this
mode during an install, everything will
Yann == Yann Dirson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yann ...that reminds me... does anybody knows what has happened to
Yann the periodic WNPP listing ? This kind of package really needs a
Yann new maintainer ! Well, IMHO, at least... Maybe I'll volunteer,
Yann but not right now... anyway it's too
Eloy A. Paris wrote:
James A.Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In making enquiries to LJ about the cost of advertising,
Debian was given an offer of 2 one-half page ads if
we do some work on some Linux docs that the LJ is
maintaining. This is an opportunity we shouldn't
let pass.
Oh,
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Brandon Mitchell wrote:
: On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote:
:
: I'm sorry to disapoint you, but US/Central is a perfectly valid timezone.
: It is only intended for those parts of the central US where Daylight
:
On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 08:26:41AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote:
I'm sorry to disapoint you, but US/Central is a perfectly valid timezone.
It is only intended for those parts of the central US where Daylight
Savings Time is not practiced. You will notice that there are equivalet
settings for the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam P. Harris) writes:
Bob Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I will be out of town after tomorrow for about a week, so I won't
be able to do anything on the README before then, but I don't think
2.0 will be released before then.
Perhaps not. Anyhow we should
On Mon, Jun 15, 1998 at 08:27:47AM -0500, Zed Pobre wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Francesco Potorti` wrote:
Look again. It's under XShells, and has been since 0.0.3-4.
I do not see it in my wmaker menu. I also looked under /etc/X11 in
some
At 16:10 -0700 1998-06-15, Dermot John Bradley wrote:
Joel as you can see from the CC: headers above this email is going out to
more than just yourself. The point(s) I'm making below I consider to be
important to the Debian project as a whole.
As can be seen from bug #23367, you sent me an email
At 16 Jun 1998 11:42:39 -0400, Bob Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam P. Harris) writes:
Bob Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I will be out of town after tomorrow for about a week, so I won't
be able to do anything on the README before then, but I don't
I'm maintaining the scwm window manager, whose scripts call the tempfile
command. 'tempfile' is in the debianutils package, an Essential one, so a
Depends from debianutils wouldn't be needed; the problem is that only recent
debianutils packages come with tempfile. So my question is: must I add
Mmm, why don't you just ask Bruce to maintain this package and update it
appropriately?
www.uk.debian.org/~aj/ contains make scripts to do the job for hamm.
i don't like this rude behaviour too, but it's the debian way to remove a
package, and several people complaint to me, that the current
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
i don't think that a package is the right place for such stuff :
many people want to burn debian cd's before or without installing debian hamm.
Well, but putting them in a hamm package does not prevent people
Andreas == Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Andreas binary, and a request not to sell or burn debian hamm cd's
Andreas before it it released, a statement that and why we not
Theres a policy that debian hamm CDs can't be burned and sold before
release?
- PGP
Sorry to have stayed out of this but I have been busy...
Bottom line...tzconfig is broken.
If you look at the list provided under US there is an entry of
Indiana-Eastern, and Arizona... as well. These should be linked to their
non-DST configuration. The ones that say eastern, and central, and
Darren/Torin/Who Ever... [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't know perl, and am only going on what Ray has been telling
me. It was my understanding that perl could be made to
dynamically load it's gdbm part on request and that way perl need
only recommend or (better) suggest gdbm. Is this
Hi, Dale!
Sorry to jump in (I have almost no expertise in tzconfig), but I have
US/Central in timezone and date, xntp work fine for me. May be it's not
broken? How should one check?
Sasha.
Sorry to have stayed out of this but I have been busy...
Bottom line...tzconfig is broken.
The
Francesco Tapparo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So my question is: must I add Depends: debianutils ( 1.6), or I'm
guaranteed that will be upgraded the essential packages first? Is
this bug-fix worthy of an hamm release?
Yes, no, IMO no.
--
James
~Yawn And Walk North~
Perhaps clearer guidelines on this would be useful.
no ! people are not good at following guidelines.
but computers are. so we need to move some thing to automatic stuff.
something like a cvs server or so could help.
andreas
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Ian, should non-maintainer releases be allowed into frozen/unstable
without checking with the maintainer first?
this is nothing where ian needs to do a statement :
people should behave and help each other.
in this case there was good will, but bad behaviour (i guess).
please both : cool down
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote:
: Sorry to have stayed out of this but I have been busy...
:
: Bottom line...tzconfig is broken.
That may be :)
: If you look at the list provided under US there is an entry of
: Indiana-Eastern, and Arizona... as well. These should be linked to their
:
Hi,
I've already written to the author, but can y'all tell me if the
following license is acceptable in main?
PilRC is freeware.
...
Source code is available. You are free to make enhancements, but please
send the changes back to me so I can fold them into the main sources.
That's it.
--
On Mon, Jun 15, 1998 at 11:04:04PM +0200, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a wrote:
Well, vrwave only needs a java runtime environment to run. The
dependancies I've marked are related to jdk 1.1 (jdk1.1-runtime) or jdk
1.0.2 (jdk-shared OR
I've already written to the author, but can y'all tell me if the
following license is acceptable in main?
PilRC is freeware.
...
Source code is available. You are free to make enhancements, but please
send the changes back to me so I can fold them into the main sources.
I
CRONOLOG version 1.5b9
cronolog is a simple program that reads log messages from its input
and writes them to a set of output files, the names of which are
constructed using template and the current date and time. The
template uses the same format specifiers as the Unix date command
(which are
Hello,
there was a disussion on debian-testing about problems with dselect in
installing the package leafnode with nn:
I think you misunderstood or thought that I had misspelled;
There's a news reader called _nn_. It keeps insisting that I replace
leafnode with inews or inewsinn.
Well,
On 17 Jun 1998, Martin Mitchell wrote:
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This is the old .rc file, left behind by a dpkg artifact during the
upgrade. While future versions of ae will be able to remove this file, I
don't see Brian letting it into hamm, but as it is only useful in
Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
PilRC is freeware.
...
Source code is available. You are free to make enhancements, but please
send the changes back to me so I can fold them into the main sources.
I see no problems with either clause, but what did you leave out in
the
Scott Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No, you're not hiding this on the bug tracking system any more.
Come on, cool down! That´s a bad way to get this resolved. Please
DON´T do that again. I think -private would have been more apropriate.
I know everybody is getting nervous in this deep
Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
PilRC is freeware.
...
Source code is available. You are free to make enhancements, but please
send the changes back to me so I can fold them into the main sources.
I see no problems with either clause, but what did you
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote:
: Sorry to have stayed out of this but I have been busy...
:
: Bottom line...tzconfig is broken.
That may be :)
: If you look at the list provided under US there is an entry of
: Indiana-Eastern,
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote:
: On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:
:
: On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote:
:
: : Sorry to have stayed out of this but I have been busy...
: :
: : Bottom line...tzconfig is broken.
:
: That may be :)
:
: : If you look at the
Debian 2 ships with Gimp 1 take that redhat :-)
That's assuming that we can get Hamm ready and ship it before RedHat's _next_
release. sigh
Brian
( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
severity 23000 normal
--
The reason that sendmail broke is that you made a DELIBERATE modification
to procmail that sendmail wasn't expecting. While I agree that sendmail
should probably be more graceful about handling it, it is not a
release-critical error. A vast majority of people (like
Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Debian 2 ships with Gimp 1 take that redhat :-)
That's assuming that we can get Hamm ready and ship it before RedHat's _next_
release. sigh
They already have 72MB of fixes for 5.1. :) (10MB of fixes to the
libjpeg problem I mentioned earlier, 31MB for
--On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 10:22 am -0400 Dan Jacobowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
mod_perl (which I'm going to package as libapache-mod-perl .. any
better ideas?) is an apache module for tighter integration of Perl with
Apache. With the releases of 1.12, mod_perl compiles pretty simply as a
--On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 4:09 pm -0400 Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
PilRC is freeware.
...
Source code is available. You are free to make enhancements, but
please
send the changes back to me so I can fold them into
Steve == Steve Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Steve to exist? The Sparc trees, both hamm and slink, are completely
Steve screwed up because about 200 packages in the tree depend on the
Steve glibc that has been sitting in Incoming since May 4.
Actually the famous missing
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