Hello,
I just made my first ALE400 and CCW QSO today but when I went to sync
with both LotW and eQSL I received errors about unknown modes. I logged
them as ALE400 and CCW.
Any thoughts on how to properly log and report these QSOs?
Thanks,
Jeremy
KB8LFA
Hello Andy and all,
For about the Split mode. There is an option in the Trancseiver window.
About Multipsk and ALE refer to the Tony's paper, below.
73
Patrick
Multipsk ALE-400 ARQ FAE
A Quick Start Guide
by Anthony Bombardiere, K2MO
Patrick Lindecker, F6CTE is the author of the
Further to our earlier conversation about using many of the concepts
in ALE networks for establishing digital mode QSOs, this weekend I
will be using ALE technology to scan the following frequencies
USB VFO frequencies plus standard ALE center frequency of 1625Hz.
3583
10143
14073
18103
24923
at 1700Z calling CQ on 14074 very strong European stations on 20M
John
VE5MU
On 14093 as of 0400UTC , here until 1500 or later. please try a connect
John
VE5MU
Hi all,
I am monitoring 14.093
Try to connect and leave a message if I am not with my radio.
73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Hi all, I am monitoring 14.093 Try to connect and leave a message if I am not
with my radio.
73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Hello Dear Steinar,
I sent you several mail messages this afternoon running Multipsk ALE400. All
went through just fine even with QSB / QRM - no repeats - 100 word Pangram took
Listening on 10141.5, leave a message if I am not around
last night had a weak connect with CO2JA, Jose, and this morning, right at
Grey line, Steinar , LA5VNA connected with what sounded like a good signal,
but was too slow to get to the radio room.
ALE400 weak signal performance is
Back on 14093.0 currently very weak ALE400 sigs on there.
John
VE5MU
John,
OK John - hope to see you there - thanks.
Tony -K2MO
- Original Message -
From: John Bradley jbrad...@sasktel.net
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 10:49 PM
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] ALE400 testing
moved up and just before I left saw u
at 1600UTC, VE5EOC on 10141.5. VE5MU on 14078.0 , both running ALE400 1625hz
center
please try a connect or three
john
VE5MU
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 01:04:01PM -0600, John Bradley wrote:
using the selective call function under Auxillary Functions, enter my call
(VE5MU) on your station list, and sue selective call to connect.
Wow! I hadn't realized that Canada was so litigious.
Thanks, John. I learned something
ROFLMAO ! good one!! amazing what a typo can do
73's
John
VE5MU
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of mikea
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 1:09 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 testing
John,
VE5MU on 14078.0 running ALE400. Please try a connect
Easy connect / mail transfer John - left you a message. Are you available this
evening for a 20 meter ALE400 chat?
Tony -K2MO
, September 28, 2009 6:24 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 testing
John,
VE5MU on 14078.0 running ALE400. Please try a connect
Easy connect / mail transfer John - left you a message. Are you available
this evening for a 20 meter ALE400 chat
Hello Tony and all,
Thanks Tony for the nice quick guide.
For information, the last Multipsk test version (best to use for ALE400) is:
http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK_TEST_24_09_2009.ZIP
73
Patrick
- Original Message -
From: obrienaj andrewob...@gmail.com
To:
Auto-Scanning 14074 14094 in ALE400 mode.Set to respond to callsign or
group calls.
de Rich/N2JR FM18
testing latest version (19 Sept) on 7082USB both VE5MU and VE5EOC
John
VE5MU
John,
See you on 14074.0 for quick test?
Tony -K2MO
- Original Message -
From: John Bradley jbrad...@sasktel.net
To: multi...@yahoogroups.com; digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 6:48 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] ALE400
testing latest version (19 Sept
QSY to 14074 @ 2300utc
John
VE5MU
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 4:51 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Cc: John Bradley
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400
John,
See you on 14074.0
Moved to 10141.5 , 1625hz center for further testing. Feel free to connect
(1800UTC 17Sept)
have been good signals from Europe on 30M recently
John
VE5MU
Tony, K2MO and myself had a good test session with ALE 400 most recent beta
test version (http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK_TEST_15_09_2009.ZIP)
yesterday. Thanks to Tony, we found the following results
Couple of points:
. Stations are 1600miles or 2700km apart
. K2MO runs a
What program are you guys using to run ALE400?
I may give this mode a shot.
Bob - K3MQ
beaconing 2 minute intervals on 14093.0 dial until Z Sept14
john
VE5MU
Hi all,
I am calling cq in ale400 arq mode on 14.074 now.
Try to connect to me:)
73 de LA5VNA Steinar
On 10145.5 for the next 14 hours. Please try a connect, @3.30Z Sept 11
John
VE5MU
I am not familiar with the US band plan , but want to set up on 30M with an
ALE400 station and leave it parked there for awhile for testing.
Any suggestions for a frequency?
Propagation on 30M has bee good over the past while, judging by the results
on WSPR
John
VE5MU/VE5EOC
, 50162.5, 144162.5 (AF at 1625 Hz).
The complete list of frequencies is on http://hflink.com/ale400.
73
Patrick
- Original Message -
From: Matt Gregory
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] ALE400
Hi
Hi all,
I am calling cq in ale400 arq mode on 14.074 now.
Try to connect to me:)
73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Hi
Iam intrested in playing with ale 400 using multipsk and was wondering what are
the calling freq?
Matt
kc2pua
- Original Message -
From: Matt Gregory kc2...@rocketmail.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 4:06 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] ALE400
Hi
Message -
From: Thomas Carswell Jr. kt4w...@gmail.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400
Trust me pal... been using ALE400 from the start...the outa-sync issue
is not just a
one time thing... and not just on QRP.
Im a big
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400
***If I'm not mistaken, you referred to the sync issue as a major problem
that happens 40-to-50 times during a QSO with S-9 plus signals both
ways***
40 to 50 times during a QSO!!..WOW... Damn..I think If it occured that
many times during 1 QSO..I would
...@gmail.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400
***If I'm not mistaken, you referred to the sync issue as a major
problem
that happens 40-to-50 times during a QSO with S-9 plus signals both
ways***
40 to 50 times
Danny,
What I dont understand, with all the reported contacts here on this group,
why I am not seeing ANY of them on the spot network? I would gladly give
some of them a listen, if they showed up
Danny Douglas N7DC
That's a good question...
I've noticed 'exotic mode' cluster spots on
...@yahoogroups.com
Moderator
Digital_modes
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159
- Original Message -
From: Tony
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC
Danny,
What I dont
Moderator
Digital_modes
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159
- Original Message -
From: Tony
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC
Danny,
What I dont understand, with all
/?yguid=341090159
- Original Message -
From: Andrew O'Brien
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC
Danny, I think they are not being posted/spotted. I have always
assumed, perhaps wrongly
: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC
I ran such a cluster for a few years , before I opened the sked
page. I was running WinCluster. I do have the bandwidth to run a
cluster again but want to avoid the cost of some of the better cluster
software. It would need to be a digital cluster that does
Carswell Jr. kt4w...@gmail.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400
w4pgh
k3gau
n4wi
wa9hcz
ni9y
n9fdf
k9vu
wb8rol
ai4cm
Thats just the ones in my log on laptop(im at work)
Most of those I have worked at least 3-5 times
to be
transmitted.
73
Patrick
- Original Message -
From: John Bradley
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com ; multi...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 5:54 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] ALE400
I have brought this up to Patrick a few timesI asked
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400
w4pgh
k3gau
n4wi
wa9hcz
ni9y
n9fdf
k9vu
wb8rol
ai4cm
Thats just the ones in my log on laptop(im at work)
Most of those I have worked at least 3-5 times, somealot
more(k3gau,w4pgh
: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400
Trip,
Its not a unique problem. KT4WO
Well it does seem to be unique problem because we haven't heard from anyone
else with major sync issues (yet). Your comments will hopefully, bring them out
of the woodwork
- Original Message -
From: kt4w...@gmail.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400
***If I'm not mistaken, you referred to the sync issue as a major problem
that happens 40-to-50 times during a QSO with S-9 plus
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400
What I dont understand, with all the reported contacts here on this group,
why I am not seeing ANY of them on the spot network? I would gladly give some
of them a listen, if they showed up there, but they are not. I have only
recently downloaded
EVERmy bad
- Original Message -
From: DANNY DOUGLAS
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400
What I dont understand, with all the reported contacts here on this group,
why I am not seeing ANY of them
great conditions, 3 of us on now and looking for more at 0200Z
John
Ve5mu
it
working; let us know what you find.
Tony -K2MO
- Original Message -
From: kt4w...@gmail.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400
***If I'm not mistaken, you referred to the sync issue as a major problem
...@yahoogroups.com; digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:05 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] ALE400 on 14074
great conditions, 3 of us on now and looking for more at 0200Z
John
Ve5mu
I have brought this up to Patrick a few timesI asked for a
slottime or some random timer...
I think this would solve the problem. This is a MAJOR ISSUE with ALE400.
Until this is fixed...ALE400 will never become mainstream
I have been fighting this issuse sense ALE400 came out.
So
Trust me pal... been using ALE400 from the start...the outa-sync issue
is not just a
one time thing... and not just on QRP.
Im a big fan of ALE400 and MultiPSK(reg)...BUT It IS a major issue.
When you have had it occur 40-50 times(with 20 over sig.)
..then tell me its not major.
I have had
Trip,
You're not by any chance using a VOX interface (like the Signalink) with
the delay button pressed in are you? That would really screw up the
timing of FAE400.
I haven't experienced the collision problem other than when sigs are
really buried in noise.
I have also used FAE400 since it
I have also used ALE/FAE400 since it was developed ... and no VOX
2.4 pent 4 with gig of ram...or 1 gig pent3 with 512 ram or 800mhz
pent 3 with 512 or 1.5 gig ATOM w/1gig ram.4 diff. homebrew
interfaces some with xformers..some notIcom IC-718 or Kenwood
TS-50 or Kenwood TS450SAT or
causing repeats and sync issues.
What kind of rig / interface are you using?
Tony -K2MO
- Original Message -
From: Thomas Carswell Jr. kt4w...@gmail.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400
Trust me pal
: Thomas Carswell Jr. kt4w...@gmail.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400
I have also used ALE/FAE400 since it was developed ... and no VOX
2.4 pent 4 with gig of ram...or 1 gig pent3 with 512 ram or 800mhz
pent 3 with 512
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400
I have also used ALE/FAE400 since it was developed ... and no VOX
2.4 pent 4 with gig of ram...or 1 gig pent3 with 512 ram or 800mhz
pent 3 with 512 or 1.5 gig ATOM w/1gig ram.4 diff. homebrew
interfaces some with xformers..some notIcom IC-718 or Kenwood
?
Tony -K2MO
- Original Message -
From: Thomas Carswell Jr. kt4w...@gmail.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400
I have also used ALE/FAE400 since it was developed ... and no VOX
2.4 pent 4 with gig of ram
30, 2009 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400
w4pgh
k3gau
n4wi
wa9hcz
ni9y
n9fdf
k9vu
wb8rol
ai4cm
Thats just the ones in my log on laptop(im at work)
Most of those I have worked at least 3-5 times, somealot more(k3gau,w4pgh)
No less than 8 diff. soundcards..from onboard
Both VE5EOC and VE5MU are currently listening on 14074, ALE400. Both
stations are in DO70QK, about 2km apart.
Both stations are available for connect, and both stations will respond to
ARES as a group call (enter ARES on the call list, push call button)
Please send mail.
Open to
now that the dah-dee-dah -dee dee dah dah's have all gone away, am
listening on 14074 dial @ 1625 hz .
copied N9DSJ and K3MO last night.. you can connect to me even if I am not in
front of the rig, also will respond to an ARES net call. Give
it a try.
Am on now (2100Z ) to
I am probably too close to John on 20 meters as I never have any luck
connecting. I am calling CQ and monitoring 14.074 with FAE400 right now
(2115Z) and will try and have it on for a few hours when I am not
experimenting with PSKmail_server.
73,
Rick, KV9U
John Bradley wrote:
now that
This mode used as ALE is much superior to PC-ALE since you can determine if
the path is there by sounding, and then do a connect to pass
traffic using the same software. The other station can be unattended in
this process.
ALE141 also works well in exactly the same manner, no difference in
For several reasons we did not emulate the full forwarding syntax of the
BBS world, as it really starts to increase the scope as you get into store
forward. Once you accept a message, you own it, including communicating
failure back to the initiating session. Big responsibility. So by design
Based on what I know, for SMTP, JNOS may be an option at less than 300
baud, i.e., 100-110 baud or PAX, using MultiPSK as soundcard modem.
I have not tested any of it yet. I have had no time and possibilities to
test it so far.
JNOS can use FBB compression or LZW compressed SMTP on any of its
John Bradley wrote:
ARES has responded with a command unit which has HF data capability. This
could include a WIFI router so that laptops could be included from the local
EOC. This command unit would work back into an EOC with data and internet
connections. ARES would be tasked with passing
You are right in that the likely solution would be SCS and Pactor3.
The only other thing that we have tried is RFSM8000, developed by Dimitri ,
which has a email gateway built into it, is ARQ and runs on soundcard
Nobody in the US is using this on the ham bands at least since it does not
Alan Barrow wrote:
Yes, I understand it works. FBB works OK on HF because once you are
logged in, it's not that interactive. But you still have 2-3 turnarounds
before you send the initial message, etc.
FBB protocol has a feature I find very valuable: the Z-modem style
resume. JNOS had not
Hi John,
At the time I was listening to the frequency there were RTTY stations on
either side and very close, so did not attempt a connection.
Were you using ALE400 or FAE400? My understanding is that FAE is faster
than the ALE with plain text due to compression which I don't think is
technically we were using FAE400 mode and FAE2000 modes, in ARQ as opposed
to general broadcast (unproto) mode.
I agree with you on the 400ARQ mode, and the feature I appreciate most is
the ability to send mail to an unattended station, having determined that
the unattended station can hear
I believe that the simplest is not reinventing the wheel, and using
MultiPSK as a modem, using traditional BBS programs as the mail
application.
Does anyone find this to be wrong?
The store and forward part could mean a *LOT* of work to be done, or
actually, re-done...
For traditional ham
So how would we go about using FBB or JNOS? JNOS has appeal since it can
gateway to the internet, a desirable feature
for emergency comms
John
VE5MU
I believe that the simplest is not reinventing the wheel, and using MultiPSK
as a modem, using traditional BBS programs as the mail application.
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 and 141a
Hi John,
At the time I was listening to the frequency there were RTTY stations on
either side and very close, so did not attempt a connection.
Were you using ALE400 or FAE400? My understanding is that FAE is faster
than the ALE with plain text due
When I used to be on another digital group (I think it may have been one
of the TAPR lists?), Maiko was able to get certain hardware/firmware to
work with his development of JNOS2.
Although JNOS is very theoretical to me, I wonder if it could it be set
up with the mode of your choice (within
As of Z , VE5MU and VE5GPM are on 3596USB dial , MU running ALE400, GPM
running 141A. Stations will be operating until 0700 or later
Both have QRZ and HFN enabled, try a connect or sounding . Or try sending a
small text file (1K or so).
reception reports would be appreciated
John
After an evening of limited testing, VE6OG and I found ALE400 much better on
a file transfer tonight, given the band conditions and
QRM.
Both stations remain on for the rest of the night and early morning .
John
VE5MU
In answer to your questions...
. did not have any luck with a connect from anyone other than local
hams on both 141A and ALE400 , but the bands were in particularly bad shape
over the weekend . Am in the process of installing a 800watt solid state amp
at VE5GPM, so will try that later
I tried to connect again today (this afternoon) as I saw your request
for connecting via FAE400 on 14.111 and 7.103. I tried both stations
callsigns as it almost seemed as if the frequencies were reversed from
the other day with the regular MIL-STD-188-141A mode, but maybe I
misread that, HI.
John Bradley wrote:
· Have given up on the PCALE and HFlink bunch, since there
seems to be no interest in doing anything other than sending 1 line
messages to each other , or simply sounding. The MARS version of PCALE
might work, but the author is not allowing use of this software
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 5:23 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] ALE400 Testing 3584kc USB
from 1600Z Friday to Z Sunday, VE5MU will be on 3584 USB running ALE 400.
1500 hz center .QRZ and HFN enabled for soundings
please connect using the Mail function
from 1600Z Friday to Z Sunday, VE5MU will be on 3584 USB running ALE
400. 1500 hz center .QRZ and HFN enabled for soundings
please connect using the Mail function, leave your name ,address and signal
report, and I will forward you a genuine VE5MU QSL
card directly. These might be
Expeditionradio said:
This narrow auto sub-band is time-shared with
many different automatic/semi-automatic
nets and stations, including various packet
and pactor modes. The segment is only 4kHz wide,
so if one is using a standard 3kHz SSB filter,
it almost covers the whole segment. It
; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:13 AM
Subject: [digitalradio] ALE400 Beacon and testing
VE5GPM beaconing on 14109.5 , 5 minute intervals until 20:00UTC , beam
pointed south east
VE5MU listening 14109.5, ready for connect until 20:00 utc
John
VE5MU
VE5GPM beaconing on 14109.5 , 5 minute intervals until 20:00UTC , beam
pointed south east
VE5MU listening 14109.5, ready for connect until 20:00 utc
John
VE5MU
Hi all
I am calling on 3.590 in ale400 now
73 de LA5VNA Steinar
73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Is anyone using the HFLink ALE 400 frequencies? I have not had any luck
in contacting anyone on these frequencies using the narrow ALE and FAE
modes.
Also, if you are using these modes, when do you find it best to use
ALE400 vis a vis FAE400?
My personal preference is to call CQ with FAE400
Hi all
Calling on 14.074 in ale400
73 de LA5VNA Steinar
, with a lot of
information.
73
Patrick
- Original Message -
From: Hisami Dejima
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400
Hi Patrik
I found ALE400 by RSID, but QSO was not completed.
Can I find
kHz USB , 3577 kHz USB
http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php
- Original Message -
From: John Becker, WØJAB
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 11:34 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] ALE400
Where on the bands can this mode be found?
And does
At 03:47 PM 12/12/2007, you wrote:
Pactor 1 and Amtor are FSK modes (two frequencies). ALE and ALE400 are MFSK
modes (as MFSK16 for example).
Thanks Patrick.
I knew that but was asking if it sounds like Pactor or Amtor ARQ.
The fast on off.
I have no clue what RS ID detection is .
@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 11:34 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] ALE400
Where on the bands can this mode be found?
And does it sound like Pactor / Amtor ARQ ?
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Where on the bands can this mode be found?
And does it sound like Pactor / Amtor ARQ ?
Hi John,
We don't have any specific places we have been operating, although I
made a suggestion on the HFDEC yahoogroup (Hams for Disaster and
Emergency Communications), that perhaps we could operate up a ways from
the typical PSK31 watering holes. My suggestion, and it is only a
suggestion,
Hi All;
Yesterday used ALE400 in a long QSO with EA3AFR, Txema, on 14094.5 .
Conditions were not the best, yet
We were able to chat for about 30 minutes despite some QRM/QSB. The software
was very impressive,
Working well even down to my noise floor.
Under poor conditions it is important
]
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 6:23 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] ALE400
Hi All;
Yesterday used ALE400 in a long QSO with EA3AFR, Txema, on 14094.5 .
Conditions were not the best, yet
We were able to chat for about 30 minutes despite some QRM/QSB. The software
was very impressive
Worked WB8NUT and N2JR on 20M today, under pretty poor conditions.
N2JR was just at my noise level and ALE400 copied as well as MFSK under
these conditions. Was able to do a connect and chat , as well as upload mail
to the mailbox.
Very impressive and would be interested in trying it on
Sitting on 14109.5 ALE400 all Thrusday Morning , if anyone wants to try the
mail function
John
VE5MU
ALE400 – Narrow band ALE mode now available
Patrick F6CTE has announced that a narrow band version of the popular Automatic
Link Establishment (ALE) software is now available.
On the HFLink Yahoo group he writes:
For those interested in doing ALE and ARQ FAE using a narrow bandwidth (400
This Am did a connect using ALE400 between Cincinnati (WB8NUT) and Regina,
which is just over 2000km.
This was on 14109.5
ALE400 worked very well on 20 and was able to maintain the connect despite
some significant QSB.
Worked well down into the weeds and, being ARQ had 100% copy.
John
I agree it is a very useful development. I am just wondering, since many
standard ALE frequencies end with a .5, what about using for example
14109.0 ?
On 10/30/07, John Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First impressions are that Patrick has a very nice bit of software in
the new ALE400
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