Moderator : Re: [digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ?

2008-01-06 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Please refrain from generalized statements about professions that one does not like. They can be construed as personal attacks. Andy K3UK On Jan 6, 2008 1:57 AM, Demetre SV1UY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Roger J. Buffington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ?

2008-01-05 Thread Don
Hi Rick KV9U, I know we have had a few email exchanges on this and I really appreciate you and many other digital ops here in this group and on the bands. I will not get into this too much but agree it must be attended while in the shack and as you know I'm also a user and supporter of

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ?

2008-01-05 Thread Dave AA6YQ
communication or signal. -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jgorman01 Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 5:09 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ? What rule says you can't leave an automatic station

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2008-01-05 Thread jgorman01
What rule says you can't leave an automatic station unattended? It would be a great rule, but I don't see it. Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker, WØJAB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is one thing to be automatic and attended and another to be automatic and

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ?

2008-01-05 Thread Rick
Hi Don, I agree that is not completely clear from reading the rules, but maybe one could interpret them to mean that you can transmit a beacon if you are the control operator. The main point is that you definitely can not do this if you operate automatically on the bands below 28 MHz. I

[digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ?

2008-01-05 Thread jgorman01
@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ? What rule says you can't leave an automatic station unattended? It would be a great rule, but I don't see it. Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker, WØJAB w0jab@ wrote: It is one thing to be automatic

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2008-01-05 Thread Demetre SV1UY
Hi all, Too many lawyers in USA killed PACKET RADIO. The way you are going on you are going to kill all DIGITAL RADIO too. Hey guys hold your horses. It is a hobby not a court of law. 73 de Demetre SV1UY

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ?

2008-01-05 Thread Dave AA6YQ
@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Demetre SV1UY Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 7:25 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ? Hi all, Too many lawyers in USA killed PACKET RADIO. The way you are going on you are going to kill all DIGITAL RADIO too

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ?

2008-01-05 Thread Rick
The unattended terminology is mostly semantics since the effect of allowing automatic operation does permit the station to operate without a control operator present or even performing this duty from a remote base. Although the FCC does not use the term semi-automatic, we hams often use it as

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ?

2008-01-05 Thread Tony
Russel, If your goal is to set up an automated beacon on the 10 meter band, then you're ok as per Part 97.203. It looks like your out of luck if you want to test propagation using your own beacon on the lower HF frequencies without being present in the shack. That being the case, why not call

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ?

2008-01-05 Thread Russell Blair
Tony, well with all the commits about my question about Beacons. I was part of the testing of the NBEMS and the question came up about Beacons below 10m. So with the Beacon program that comes with VBdigi, in the message section I will input a CQ. Now with attended and unattended, with the

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ?

2008-01-05 Thread Roger J. Buffington
Dave AA6YQ wrote: Demetre, amateur radio in the United States is governed by FCC regulations. Would the fact that Winlink PMBOs flagrantly violate these regulations have something to do with your suggestion that we ignore them? Thank you for that, Dave. de Roger W6VZV

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ?

2008-01-05 Thread Tony
] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ? Tony, well with all the commits about my question about Beacons. I was part of the testing of the NBEMS and the question came up about Beacons below 10m. So with the Beacon

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ?

2008-01-05 Thread Russell Blair
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ? Tony, well with all the commits about my question about Beacons. I was part of the testing of the NBEMS and the question came up about Beacons below 10m. So with the Beacon program that comes

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ?

2008-01-05 Thread Tony
Russell, Understand -- licensed 18 years and still asking questions. Have fun... Tony -K2MO - Original Message - From: Russell Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ? Tony, I'm

[digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ?

2008-01-05 Thread Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Roger J. Buffington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Demetre, you got something against lawyers? We lawyers LOVE digital radio. Down with anti-lawyer bigotry. He he Roger, Some people don't like pactor and some don't like lawyers!! de Roger W6VZV 73