Re: [digitalradio] Re: Emergency agencies/ ham equipment/ hams in emcomm

2008-01-13 Thread Roy G. Jackson
OK, this reply has made up my mind. I, too, subscribed to this list thinking I would be reading about digital radio. I have tried to weed through the chaffe to get to the posts with some real substance. It seems that there are a few posters on this list who just argue any point that comes up,

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Emergency agencies/ ham equipment/ hams in emcomm

2008-01-12 Thread Alan Barrow
jgorman01 wrote: Your first paragraph indicates that the shelter was so remote and isolated that it required helicopter delivery of food and water. Yet you also indicate that you were in your truck which indicates you could drive to the shelter. Maybe you were driving a monster truck? Some

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Emergency agencies/ ham equipment/ hams in emcomm

2008-01-12 Thread Rodney
Alan, I APPLAUD your efforts during that storm! Your last statement hit home, that if people don't practice they won't be prepared! Our problem is that we train and train and train, but are NEVER called upon during the Statewide or County exercises. Doesn't do ANY good to practice what

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Emergency agencies/ ham equipment/ hams in emcomm

2008-01-12 Thread Alan Barrow
Jim wrote: Consequently, when you say no communications, you are overstating the facts. Now maybe, a runner in a vehicle may the only means of communication, but never the less, it is communications. And the most important limitation: Even once roads were open to non-emergency traffic,

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Emergency agencies/ ham equipment/ hams in emcomm

2008-01-11 Thread Les Warriner
You have led a sheltered life. Try operating in the Philipines after a volcano blows, or in Mexico after the same incident, or in Africa after a transvaal fire, then tell me Hams are not needed. It's too bad we are getting comments like this from the uninformed with no experience. Get some

[digitalradio] Re: Emergency agencies/ ham equipment/ hams in emcomm

2008-01-11 Thread jgorman01
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Alan Barrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I personally had a Red Cross shelter leader run after my truck and flag me down because she thought we were packing up. quote: You don't know how much we still need you guys. Until you arrived we had no

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Emergency agencies/ ham equipment/ hams in emcomm

2008-01-11 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Thanks Robert, I support you 100% 73 de LA5VNA Steinar n4ijs skrev: Hello! I am new to this forum, so please forgive me if this comes across off base. But, I came here looking for information on digital modes for Amateur Radio - not various, multi-post messages about various peoples

[digitalradio] Re: Emergency agencies/ ham equipment/ hams in emcomm

2008-01-11 Thread n4ijs
Hello! I am new to this forum, so please forgive me if this comes across off base. But, I came here looking for information on digital modes for Amateur Radio - not various, multi-post messages about various peoples opinion (and arguments) on unrelated topics. I am sure that these discussions

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Emergency agencies/ ham equipment/ hams in emcomm

2008-01-11 Thread Rick
Robert, All these issues on exploring the digital modes are and should be discussed. It depends upon what interests the posters who are willing to share that information. Be thankful that they do. Many of these discussions are vital to amateur radio. The decisions to come will affect you

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Emergency agencies/ ham equipment/ hams in emcomm

2008-01-11 Thread Rud Merriam
In Katrina and Rita shelters were opened where there were people in need. Whether supplies could readily reach them was a problem to be solved, not a requirement for shelter location. You are not understanding the widespread nature of these disasters. It was easier to solve the supply problem than

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Emergency agencies/ ham equipment/ hams in emcomm

2008-01-11 Thread tailfeathers
Yeah...that would be the one where you buy a book and sit in the corner and not insult other peoples intelligence with your arrogance...Especially as an newbie...:) Gary n8gsj n4ijs wrote: Hello! I am new to this forum, so please forgive me if this comes across off base. But, I came here

[digitalradio] Re: Emergency agencies/ ham equipment/ hams in emcomm

2008-01-11 Thread jgorman01
Where did I say hams weren't needed for support communications? Jeez, when did ham radio volunteers become first line search and rescue personnel? Too many people seem to miss the distinction between communications emergency and search and rescue operations. Emergency communications doesn't

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Emergency agencies/ ham equipment/ hams in emcomm

2008-01-11 Thread John Hirth
Robert, I may be in a minority, but I don't think you're off base. If you stick around you WILL find posts that are more to what you (and I) sought as a focus of a digital radio forum. You just have to sort through a myriad of repetitive philosophical postings on topics that sometimes seem to