At 06:27 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote:
Another question was whether Pactor III's bandwidth was really necessary for
live keyboard to keyboard QSOs. I guess that was an anti-Pactor III question,
but that one also never got answered.
Jim to answer that I really would have to say that
for keyboard
John, I asked you the same question, but you did not answer mine. :-(
Just as I thought, the only reason to allow Pactor-III on 60m is for
Winlink's benefit. Let's file comments to the FCC to allow any modes 500
Hz wide or less so at least 4 or 5 stations can use the channel for QSO
and
Sorry to both of you.
In the last week my mind has been elsewhere after my check up with
my cancer doctor. Really need testing to be sure but right now he
thinks that it may have return. But to answer both. No it is not needed.
And if I may add that I only use it when connected to a BBS. Makes
John W0JAB wrote: I Have only been a (ham) since 1968 and still learning. But
I don't recall all of this happening 10 or more years ago.
I got into amateur radio in 1959, and there were fairly strong disagreements
between AMers and SSBers.
In recent years, there have been disagreements
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-76A1.pdf
This just makes no sense to me why you would push Pactor III on a
channelized frequency setting..
73 Rick N2AMG
www.n2amg.com
It seems odd to me too Rick.
However, i do note...
means of on-off keying (emission designator 150HA1A) continues to be used by
amateur stations because
of its reliability in difficult propagation conditions. ARRL also states
that the other requested emission
designators – 60H0J2B (which is
When did Pactor-III (up to 2200 Hz wide, I think), suddenly become a
narrowband data mode?
73 - Skip KH6TY
Andy obrien wrote:
It seems odd to me too Rick.
However, i do note...
means of on-off keying (emission designator 150HA1A) continues to be
used by amateur stations because
of
From: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 Time: 08:08:41
and
2K80J2D (which is generally known as
PACTOR-III) – are popular narrowband data modes.
Since when was Pactor III a narrow-band mode?
--
73
Ian, G3NRW
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 02:53:16PM +0100, Ian Wade G3NRW wrote:
From: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 Time: 08:08:41
and
2K80J2D (which is generally known as
PACTOR-III) ??? are popular narrowband data modes.
Since when was Pactor III a narrow-band mode?
In
In a channelized setting, PIII will not exceed allowed bandwidth.
But, to answer your question about why the ARRL pushes PIII; relevance
in emergency communications for current sustainability of allotted
spectrum.
When there is a race for control of long-haul spectrum (for which there
is a
What it means is that the channel will be dominated with personal
Winlink Pactor-III traffic, completely filling it up, with no sharing,
or any space left for truly narrowband modes like PSK31 - all in the
name of emergency communications. It has proven impossible for a
Pactor-III ARQ station
I can clearly see that this anti Pactor rant will Never end.
John, W0JAB
AA6YQ comments below
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From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on
Behalf Of John Becker, WOJAB
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:50 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor
I would belive that if it was not for that fact that shortly
after a PACTOR QSO the phone has rang telling me what
orifice I should shove my pactor equipment into. Leaving no
guessing what so ever about it. Then not even giving me
time to say I was in a 2 person QSO. That my friend was
the
John,
How frequently do you use Pactor-III, keyboard to keyboard?
How fast do you touch type?
73 - Skip KH6TY
John Becker, WØJAB wrote:
So my friend I do think WINLINK has a lot to do with it
when even a keyboard to keyboard QSO get's phone calls
from some lid. But I guess, I'll
Often, very often. All pactor modes.
As for a typing. touch typing is a thing of the past.
At 02:19 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote:
John,
How frequently do you use Pactor-III, keyboard to keyboard?
How fast do you touch type?
John,
I was specifically asking only about Pactor-III keyboard-to-keyboard
QSO's, not Pactor-II or Pactor I.
As for a typing. touch typing is a thing of the past.
How do you personally carry on a keyboard-to-keyboard conversation
without typing?
73 - Skip KH6TY
John Becker, WØJAB
At 03:12 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote:
John,
I was specifically asking only about Pactor-III keyboard-to-keyboard QSO's,
not Pactor-II or Pactor I.
Skip, just because you are anyone else can't copy
P2 or P3 does not mean it does not happen. Belive me, it happens !
most of my keyboard to keyboard
ESP - There is a difference between typing and touch typing. Google it.
I did. Touch typing is typing without using the sense of sight to find
the keys.
*Typing* is the process of inputting text into a device, such as a
typewriter /wiki/Typewriter, cell phone /wiki/Cell_phone, computer
John and others,
well I jumped in too soon. I thought he meant Pactor I as it was not
specified in the original message. I also used to love both Pactor and
Amtor ARQ modes.. still love Clover too, and will use any of them.
73 Buddy WB4M
- Original Message -
From: John Becker, WØJAB
Just got started John.Don't have my station up and running yet.Can't seem to
get something right.Trying to set up RTTY with no luck.I think I have verything
set up right and see and hear signals on the screen.But no messages.I set all
the jumpers by the book.But I can't send or recive any
Rick Ellison writes:
...
This just makes no sense to me why you would push Pactor III on a
channelized frequency setting..
A good question: I was thinking of sending in a comment on that NPRM,
recommending that instead of authorizing only PSK-31 and Pactor-III,
that the FCC instead permit
John W0JAB wrote: I like it (Pactor) and will operate it.
You have every right to, assuming you don't interfere with an ongoing QSO etc.
And someone calling your home and swearing at you was uncalled for, so to
speak, and not in the spirit of ham radio.
But several people have brought up
On May 10, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Chris Jewell wrote:
Rick Ellison writes:
recommending that instead of authorizing only PSK-31 and Pactor-III,
that the FCC instead permit all publicly-documented data modes
So, has Pactor III every been publicly-documented???
Dave
K3DCW
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