All, I started a page about Zoe Wicomb's new novel, October. It is a
beautiful novel and had great literary merit.
I received a message is it being considered for deletion. I wrote the
editor and gave him reasons not to delete and added another review.
The author has won the inaugural
Hi Kathleen,
The only thing that I can see that is being considered for deletion is the
Category:Novels set in Namaqualand (which currently contains only the
article for [[October (novel)]]. The article about the novel itself does
not seem to be in danger of deletion. How can we help?
~Nathan
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Kathleen McCook klmcc...@gmail.com wrote:
I took off the scheduled for deletion notice or maybe it was lack of
notability he put up. I couldn't bear. I am fearful he will put it back.
This is the issue--how can a male editor decide a woman's novel is not
Thank you. But I do not believe these Guidelines are used fairly when it
comes to author's gender. Again..why would every novel by Clive Cussler get
its own page but there be a notability query about one by Zoë Wicomb??
This seems to me pure gender bias.
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:20 AM,
I'm sure you are right. The rules are not applied evenly across articles at
all. It's a myth, or common misconception, that Wikipedia is a system
that functions as we are used to institutional systems functioning. The
vast ruleset is just a toolbox, with tools that different people pick up
and use
also discussed on the talk page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:October_(novel)
-Jeremy
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On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case
danc...@frontiernet.net wrote:
On what basis in Clive Cussler notable?
That he’s a regular denizen of the bestseller lists in many countries
who’s had works adapted into major motion pictures (To be honest, I think
we should say
The reason I asked to discuss here is to ascertain whether or not there
seems to be a different set of notability standards by gender.
I encourage students to contribute to Wikipedia.
But when notability is an editor's decision with so many exceptions...how
do you encourage?
Really, I am careful
My intention was to point out that a series of novels (Cussler's) that
don't meet the criteria applied to __October__ have full pages. The two
authors are in no way similar. In fact, they are as far apart as they could
be. However, the male author has complete coverage of every jot and tittle.
I don't think it is helpful to assign gender based systemic bias every time an
edit is questioned on women related topic.
To put it in perspective, this was the article as it existed just before the
{{notability}} tag was applied—three days after it was created, and two days
after the
Thank you. But I do not believe these Guidelines are used fairly when it
comes to author's gender. Again..why would every novel by Clive Cussler get
its own page but there be a notability query about one by Zoë Wicomb??
This seems to me pure gender bias.
Interestingly, in the process of
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I think its new-ness bias and a related content bias and a popularity
bias rather than primarily a gender bias. Theres loads of new work
published all the time. Lots of it will not merit a Wikipedia article, just
as many novels by the male contemporaries of Clive Cussler dont get
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