[Gendergap] Re: #MEMORY (WAS: Re: List update)

2021-05-16 Thread J Hayes
yes. virtual memorials are fine, and we could do an editathon in her name as we did for Kevin, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/2016_Women_in_Philosophy_Drive but i think we should organize some scholarships / stipends in her name. i will raise this at Wikimedia DC

Re: [Gendergap] more women's voices

2017-11-01 Thread J Hayes
Yeah, if you wanted a case study of what implicit bias looks like, just look at health care. It is good working on disaster response, but the vital chronic public health topics are relatively neglected. This infant sleep article got elevated by our oclc friends. Much criticism of the start by the

Re: [Gendergap] "As I tried to fight sexism on Wikipedia in Italian"

2017-07-07 Thread J Hayes
please include it in the GLAM newsletter, (deadline today) On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 9:26 PM, camelia boban wrote: > We shared it on our Milan wiki page event. > > Camelia > > Il 06 lug 2017 10:37, "Jacqueline Mabey" > ha scritto: > >> Hi

Re: [Gendergap] Wiktionary *desperately* needs more gender-aware editors

2017-05-27 Thread J Hayes
volunteers j On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 4:57 PM, J Hayes <slowki...@gmail.com> wrote: > the smaller wikis have ownership issues , the arguments are so vehement > because the stakes are so small. > > i would advise trying out lots of other wikis like commons or wikisource > or wikidata.

Re: [Gendergap] the poem gap

2017-05-11 Thread J Hayes
> I'd be happy to work with English majors and MLIS students at the > University of Washington. I'm a former English major and teacher myself. :) > > On May 11, 2017, at 7:39 PM, J Hayes <slowki...@gmail.com> wrote: > > i would nominate sadads, he's the digital humanist &

Re: [Gendergap] the poem gap

2017-05-11 Thread J Hayes
i would nominate sadads, he's the digital humanist but his plate is full maybe a small grant for a grad student of his choosing or roping in womeninred / women in green On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkald...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:12 PM

Re: [Gendergap] the poem gap

2017-05-11 Thread J Hayes
yes, i have been writing poetry bios for a while (and there is a bias in the historical data) and transcribing on wikisource tends to be by book and not individual poem (that tends to be an older practice) the oclc metadata tends to be by book, so we may need some hand curation, since we have

Re: [Gendergap] "A Call to Men UK " manhood workshops

2017-04-14 Thread J Hayes
t to their attention and they didn't investigate it at all. > > Pine > > > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 6:19 AM, J Hayes <slowki...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> nope - >> this was an incident at wikiconUSA 2015 >> apparently nothing done >> which has impacted the credib

Re: [Gendergap] "A Call to Men UK " manhood workshops

2017-04-14 Thread J Hayes
t would have the ability to investigate the situation. > > Pine > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 8:29 PM, J Hayes <slowki...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> yes, that functionary and his behavior on meta has chilled the >> participation of some librarian editors >> t

Re: [Gendergap] "A Call to Men UK " manhood workshops

2017-04-13 Thread J Hayes
yes, that functionary and his behavior on meta has chilled the participation of some librarian editors they are highly skeptical of wiki harrassment efforts as long as he is in a position to see personal identifying information. they do not trust check user to be done responsibly as well this is

Re: [Gendergap] [Wikimedia-l] Let's go gender neutral

2017-04-13 Thread J Hayes
oved on > to something else. > > The last time I got templated by a patroller, I convinced him to write > his first article, lol, it was a decent article too, and he even > joined my WikiProject. > > On 4/12/17, J Hayes <slowki...@gmail.com> wrote: > > yes, i reme

Re: [Gendergap] US government website for International Women of Courage Award is down

2017-02-12 Thread J Hayes
the poor archiving of state department predates the change over i did some link rot repair using archive.is but there may be lost years we should think about a program of archiving state urls, since they will not do it. jim On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 4:40 AM, Ellie Kesselman

Re: [Gendergap] U.S. government website for International Women of Courage Award is down

2017-02-01 Thread J Hayes
here is the archive .is page https://archive.is/1XJm internet archive not working On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Neotarf wrote: > The U.S. government website for the International Women of Courage Award > is down. There are probably quite a few articles that link to this

Re: [Gendergap] Women's march speeches repeatedly put up for deletion

2017-02-01 Thread J Hayes
yeah- nominating VOA video for deletion is proof of the cultural bias - so it goes On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Fæ wrote: > Advocate for what exactly? There nothing ethically wrong in ensuring > we establish precedent using an equal sample space rather than cases > chosen

Re: [Gendergap] "Is Wikipedia Woke?"

2016-12-23 Thread J Hayes
to know about that, and I'd be happy to pass that feedback along if it >>> hasn't already been delivered. >>> >>> But is there any reason to believe that happened? >>> Pete >>> [[User:Peteforsyth]] >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 9:39 AM

Re: [Gendergap] "Is Wikipedia Woke?"

2016-12-23 Thread J Hayes
yes and some time dilation and taking pictures of people with user name tags on, so outing On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote: > This feature article from Bloomberg BusinessWeek does, IMO, a great job of > exploring and contextualizing Wikipedia's

Re: [Gendergap] Inside Higher Ed: "The Woes of Wikipedia"

2016-08-24 Thread J Hayes
and a sense of > entitlement wrapped in a defense of 'free speech'". Really makes you think… > > On Aug 23, 2016 9:23 PM, "J Hayes" <slowki...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yes a little fallout from an Afc reviewer taken to ani >> Why she was wasting her copy-

Re: [Gendergap] Ruth Barrett bio

2016-06-26 Thread J Hayes
i see brainyj drove by tag-spamed it , 2 years ago recently, they can't be bothered with AfD, especially with old material they concentrate on biting new editors articles. On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 11:05 PM, Carol Moore dc wrote: > Dang, I should have found some refs

Re: [Gendergap] Looking for Queen Waldra

2016-06-24 Thread J Hayes
ok there your go https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldrada_of_Wormsgau rough translation of italian version needs polish and leaning toward OR. i see there was an article on her daughter On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Fæ wrote: > Waldra became the wife of Lothar II in AD 862,

Re: [Gendergap] Gender gap vs gender bias

2016-04-05 Thread J Hayes
yes, i believe we have discussed this before- there is a systemic bias in article subjects (including a sub-set of bios) based on editor interest; there is a systemic bias in the "reliable sources" which makes it harder to address bias, by adding sources alone; there is systemic bias with

Re: [Gendergap] contents of Gendergap Digest, Vol 62, Issue 10

2016-03-27 Thread J Hayes
i have copy pasted the discussion here warning tl;dr On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 1:18 PM, wrote: > I cannot read Facebook because their real name policy means I was banned > (trans + harassers). Is this available anywhere else? > > Anna Johnson > > Sent from my iPhone > >

[Gendergap] journalist versus troll story

2016-03-19 Thread J Hayes
http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-benjamin-wey/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

Re: [Gendergap] contents of Gendergap Digest, Vol 62, Issue 10

2016-03-14 Thread J Hayes
Yes, The sequence being: Regina editathon One inexperienced new page patroler mass delete Ockerbloom Philly tweets I Facebook to Wikipedia weekly Group triage A lesson learned would be nice Cheers On Mar 14, 2016 12:51 PM, "Neotarf" wrote: > There is a lengthy thread about

Re: [Gendergap] Systematic tagging for deletion of articles created at Art And Feminism editathon

2016-03-13 Thread J Hayes
it's hard to tell the privileged ignorance from the actively sexist. ultimately motive does not matter. the biting culture rejects what does not fit the stereotype just as associate professor is a delete me sign, so is "feminist" an editathon for newbies are SPA, and where one of the article

[Gendergap] Women's Media Center. speech project

2016-03-05 Thread J Hayes
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Re: [Gendergap] Signpost op-ed (NSFW)

2016-02-24 Thread J Hayes
"the reaction would have been infinitely more severe if not for the name of the author" oh no, the reaction is because she is a women. commentators at signpost care not of position, but they could be appalled that a woman is in a position of responsibility. why waste a chance to sealion when

Re: [Gendergap] Signpost op-ed (NSFW)

2016-02-22 Thread J Hayes
"Keilana's actions have encouraged people to make it less so. " or validating the bad behavior elsewhere. i'd just say they don't need no validation, they will continue the "buzz saw" regardless. this language appropriation, (like sl**-walking) is a common enough device to be cliché. shouldn't

Re: [Gendergap] Signpost op-ed (NSFW)

2016-02-21 Thread J Hayes
risker: i'm kinda with you about defining deviancy down it's just that things are so bad can't go lower article subjects are already dismayed by the opaque unfriendly culture they periodically ask for article deletion librarians are advised about the "cultural buzzsaw" having a safe environment

[Gendergap] Harassment workshop

2016-02-17 Thread J Hayes
fyi: second in a planned series of discussions on meta https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Harassment_workshop ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit:

Re: [Gendergap] Lists of notable deaths of 2015

2016-01-25 Thread J Hayes
would seem if they are now > deceased it would be possible to find a fair-use image. Complete notes and > links, as well as links to existing articles are at: > https://neotarf.wordpress.com/2016/01/25/lists-of-notable-deaths-of-2015/ > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:59 PM, J Hayes <sl

Re: [Gendergap] Lists of notable deaths of 2015

2016-01-21 Thread J Hayes
i should not imagine a fear of paid notices, should prevent a systematic inclusion of NYTimes obits, which are assumed notable. especially with the reference generator doing all the formatting. no one is doing this; the article mentions 25% female among these. i.e. we don't include reliable

Re: [Gendergap] Lists of notable deaths of 2015

2016-01-20 Thread J Hayes
some obits are not behind paywall. a reference to do list would make good work. maybe we could get Mietchen or Magnus to make an automated list article / category "list of people with obituaries" cheers On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:31 AM, Neotarf wrote: > Links to lists in

Re: [Gendergap] Lists of notable deaths of 2015

2016-01-20 Thread J Hayes
/more complex system than simply the editorial powers-that-be. You'd > have to also consider what drives families to pay for death notices for > some people more than others. > > -Pete > [[User:Peteforsyth]] > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 6:07 PM, J Hayes <slowki...@gmail.com>

[Gendergap] What Works: Gender Equality, By Design -Harvard Business School

2016-01-03 Thread J Hayes
http://wappp.hks.harvard.edu/event/wappp-research-seminar-designing-gender-equality-iris-bohnet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEnzI31kNy4=youtu.be=PL9D7F37590143D22E ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription

Re: [Gendergap] Men’s rights activists think a “hateful” feminist conspiracy is ruining Wikipedia

2015-12-03 Thread J Hayes
there is a recent blog post about workgroup at Berkman Center for Internet and Society https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/12/03/working-together-on-online-harassment/ this was an old column from last year the same writer did a nice column recently about the fund raising. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at

Re: [Gendergap] Call for Participation: 2016 Art+Feminism Wikipedia Edit-a-thon

2015-11-09 Thread J Hayes
yes, sorry we go to "sofixit" reflexively, event organizers are thin on the ground National Library of Scotland had a wikipedian in residence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/National_Library_of_Scotland i would encourage you to get with your local library special collection, use some

Re: [Gendergap] Request for advice about editathons

2015-11-06 Thread J Hayes
i agree the trend is low undergraduate attendance if not part of grade some campus marketing (fliers, partnership with groups seems in order) but we don't have a handle on it. major divide between readers and editors seems hard to close. On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Pine W

Re: [Gendergap] Atlantic article..."How Wikipedia is Hostile to Women"

2015-10-25 Thread J Hayes
the point about dying with a whimper is well taken; or as Andrew Lih said: become like wikinews, a failed wiki the librarian who said "cultural buzzsaw", also said, "would not touch wikipedia with a 10 foot pole." apparently, the write an article outside wiki to provide negative feedback to the

Re: [Gendergap] Atlantic article..."How Wikipedia is Hostile to Women"

2015-10-21 Thread J Hayes
feel free to correct about Clara H. Hasse not Nellie A. Brown, and there were a handful of women contributors at EB1911 https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Agnes_Mary_Clerke https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica/Contributors On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Kevin

Re: [Gendergap] Video Q discussing Arbcom and gender/orientation harassment cases

2015-10-19 Thread J Hayes
: > https://neotarf.wordpress.com/2015/10/19/danielle-citrons-wikicon-online-harassment-speech-qa/ > and added links to the documents referenced. > > @Fae thanks for the link, I didn't know you could link to a specific point > in a video > @J Hayes "cultural buzzsaw" tweet? >

Re: [Gendergap] Video Q discussing Arbcom and gender/orientation harassment cases

2015-10-19 Thread J Hayes
yes, notice crickets on talk page you could be dismissive of the questions as the usual "gender gap cabal", but when andrew lih says that is the perception of the culture among library professionals, and it needs to change, you would think good faith arbs would sit up and take notice. but as DGG

Re: [Gendergap] Video Q discussing Arbcom and gender/orientation harassment cases

2015-10-19 Thread J Hayes
bout-us/Pages/code-conduct-value-ethics.aspx#h > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:52 PM, J Hayes <slowki...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> right, >> here's the tweet from an audience member at a ARL conference >> https://twitter.com/LibSkrat/status/651786423138430976 >>

[Gendergap] guardian: abuse is still the name of the game

2015-10-13 Thread J Hayes
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/oct/11/female-technology-journalists-abuse-zoe-quinn?CMP=twt_a-media_b-gdnmedia ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit:

Re: [Gendergap] Video Q discussing Arbcom and gender/orientation harassment cases

2015-10-13 Thread J Hayes
yes, nice for arbcom to see how they are perceived and Andrew Lih mentioned the "cultural buzzsaw" tweet for importance of fixing culture as one of the things wikipedia must do. this was for an audience of the US powers that be; it will be interesting to see the impact on future conduct. On

Re: [Gendergap] WP:Harassment finally links to solution for threats!

2015-09-26 Thread J Hayes
rupert, i and carol have a somewhat different experience with the police. it is unclear if i would trust them to keep identity confidential. WMF should act regardless of legal status. this merry go round of not providing clear lines of responsibility and action (other than round file) is part of

Re: [Gendergap] Signpost article on English Wikipedia's misogynist infopolitics... etc...

2015-08-21 Thread J Hayes
a section on DD is all you need to know about wikipedia. i see no mention on Red Scare; Sputnik; or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Society_for_the_Suppression_of_Vice needs a complete rewrite, but won't be happening any time soon. On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 2:40 AM, Marie Earley

Re: [Gendergap] Signpost article on English Wikipedia's misogynist infopolitics... etc...

2015-08-20 Thread J Hayes
clearly he needs an invite to wikiconference USA maybe a paper presentation http://wikiconferenceusa.org/wiki/Category:Submissions/2015 On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 10:34 PM, Carol Moore dc carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-08-19/Op-ed

Re: [Gendergap] Outcome of IdeaLab/Inspire campaign

2015-04-21 Thread J Hayes
i agree not coding especially with visual editor i look at it as another tool in the box for social media outreach for archivists and librarians and digital humanists pushing content to where researchers can find it. also broad principles of crowd sourcing, and open source software of crowd

Re: [Gendergap] Article: Wikipedia trolls now vs. women architects

2015-04-17 Thread J Hayes
maybe a note to leigh themadattar User:Thelmadatter? who was mentioned in a blog https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/04/13/wiki-learning-edit-a-thon-mexico/ good reason to go to wikimania On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Neotarf neot...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know what's going on with the

Re: [Gendergap] Article: Wikipedia trolls now vs. women architects

2015-04-13 Thread J Hayes
i also collected some anecdotal data about deletions and speedy deletions of MacArthur Fellows. you could study differential deletions of them or Fellows of the Royal Society. On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Emilio - thanks for the reminder of that

Re: [Gendergap] Article: Wikipedia trolls now vs. women architects

2015-04-11 Thread J Hayes
t think they were referring to this deletion discussion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Pia_Ednie-Brown and this declined AfC https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jennifer_Taylor_%28architect%29oldid=650496415 the list shows a lot of positive work done On

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia and Feminism.

2015-04-09 Thread J Hayes
nice wiki-splaining - the problem with your thesis: *What we don't need, however, is more feminists.* is labeling and the double standard of civility enforcement as Djembayz said at Signpost: the rules on Wikipedia are not clear, the enforcement on disruptive behavior is arbitrary or

Re: [Gendergap] Random musings about a bot

2015-02-24 Thread J Hayes
you can also do a bot request here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bot_requests On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:09 PM, JJ Marr jjm...@gmail.com wrote: You should ask down at the village pump, then if the response is favorable, start a BRFA. On Feb 24, 2015 10:04 PM, Maia Weinstock

[Gendergap] Workplace Bias Could Be Alienating Valuable STEM Talent

2015-02-16 Thread J Hayes
http://www8.gsb.columbia.edu/newsroom/newsn/3431?utm_source=twitterutm_medium=cpcutm_content=STEMutm_campaign=emba ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit:

Re: [Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature

2015-02-01 Thread J Hayes
yes, Wikimedia DC was using some opt in tracking of editathons outcomes. and reporting activity in annual report http://wikimediadc.org/wiki/Annual_report_%282012%E2%80%932013%29 there are some case studies at GLAM wiki

Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case

2015-01-24 Thread J Hayes
were 'feminists'. They were just defending the mainstream point of view from an endless onslaught of 8channers. The feminist point view isn't even represented in the article. On Jan 23, 2015, at 7:14 PM, J Hayes slowki...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/23

[Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case

2015-01-23 Thread J Hayes
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/23/wikipedia-bans-editors-from-gender-related-articles-amid-gamergate-controversy http://internet.gawker.com/wikipedia-purged-a-group-of-feminist-editors-because-of-1681463331/+cushac ___ Gendergap mailing

[Gendergap] Woman in a WikiWorld

2015-01-20 Thread J Hayes
HASTAC blog post http://www.hastac.org/blogs/alicia-pileggi/2015/01/16/woman-wikiworld-0 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit:

[Gendergap] No-Kanye Rule - How Not to Be ‘Manterrupted’ in Meetings

2015-01-19 Thread J Hayes
http://time.com/3666135/sheryl-sandberg-talking-while-female-manterruptions/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit:

[Gendergap] The Secret to Smart Groups Isn't Smart People—It's Women

2015-01-19 Thread J Hayes
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/01/the-secret-to-smart-groups-isnt-smart-people/384625/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit:

Re: [Gendergap] Diversity training for functionaries. In London?

2015-01-18 Thread J Hayes
i concur we need to be open to people, and team with them based on conduct this remark tends to play into the negative stereotype, which is not what we are about. On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Leigh Honeywell le...@hypatia.ca wrote: Tim, this kind ofsnippiness is inappropriate and